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by Qrt.S
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

@AG2012
Mind my asking...What do you mean????
by Qrt.S
Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

@AG2012 Funny question in this chaotic thread. Annikki Tähti's real name was Aira Tiensuu (5.12.1929-19.6.2017). Yes Monrepos park exists (French: mon repos: my rest) It is located in Karelia close to Vyborg/Viipuri/Viborg, nowadays in Russia: https://www.google.fi/search?q=Monrepos+park&tbm=isc...
by Qrt.S
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:23 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

Ahaa, Goldstein's answer tells us that he doesn't have the book. The book is about the history of the Sazikov family and their factorie's with pictures.
by Qrt.S
Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

Hahhaa, I have the book. You never learn, do you. Your arrogance and impoliteness continue.
Goldstein wrote:Actually, I do not want to participate in this forum


Why do you?
by Qrt.S
Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

This is the official version in the textbooks! ??? Official? It is Postnikova's version. Different sources gives different information. Another version is: Pavel Fyodorovich turned his workshop into a factory in 1812. Sazikov became court supplier in 1837. Khlebnikov bought the company in 1887. Val...
by Qrt.S
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

Interesting but it doesn't answer my question.... Pathetic!? Everybody has a right to an opinion, anybody can make mistakes and nobody is perfect. When Postnikova was published years ago it was considered to be the absolute bible regarding Russian silver....is it today?
by Qrt.S
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?
Replies: 37
Views: 413

Re: S. Stroganov Curious Detail?

An interesting topic! In general I share Ubaranda's opinion. However, since Sazikov's punches are mentioned and even shown, one particular punch puzzles me. It is the St Petersburg punch in cursive script. This punch has been discussed in threads in the past and heavy doubts were arisen regarding it...
by Qrt.S
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Norway 1803 Spoon <crown> C VD - makers mark help
Replies: 5
Views: 598

Re: Norway 1803 Spoon <crown> C VD - makers mark help

Minor typo: "Swede", not Suede, sorry.
by Qrt.S
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Norway 1803 Spoon <crown> C VD - makers mark help
Replies: 5
Views: 598

Re: Norway 1803 Spoon <crown> C VD - makers mark help

The maker (CM) is a Suede. His name is Carl Andreas Morth. He was born in Halmstad in Sweden 1767 and moved to Christiania (Oslo) in Norway in 1794 and master 28.6.1796. He died in Christiania 7.12.1824. He had a workshop with several apprentices.
by Qrt.S
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:42 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Antique Teapot, unknown maker/hallmark, need help
Replies: 4
Views: 295

Re: Antique Teapot, unknown maker/hallmark, need help

Maybe antique, but not Russian and not silver. My guess is pewter...britannia...?
by Qrt.S
Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian Kovsh verification
Replies: 3
Views: 216

Re: Russian Kovsh verification

My good man, why don't learn how the Imperial Russian silver marking system works before you buy any Russian silver. This knowledge is of utmost importance and it will save you a lot of money. The market is overcrowded with dubious Russian objects. Please read this link carefully: https://www.925-10...
by Qrt.S
Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:40 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Please help with 2x Cigarette cases and Kovsh!
Replies: 6
Views: 328

Re: Please help with 2x Cigarette cases and Kovsh!

Agree with AG2012. In addition, where is the court supplier mark? The hallmark on the case was used 1882-1899. At that time Ovtchinnikov was already court supplier.
by Qrt.S
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:37 am
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt
Replies: 26
Views: 1812

Re: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt

@legrandmogol Before I attended this discussion, the mark was discussed with some of my friends (Finns, but not dilettantes). We all totally agreed that the mark is not from Turku (note the spelling!). Then I provided Oel with the link he showed on 24.6. at 2:52. All Turku town marks are clearly vis...
by Qrt.S
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt
Replies: 26
Views: 1812

Re: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt

@legrandmogol First of all the "pictures" are not drawings. They are soot marks of original marks. Secondly, which one of us knows better Finnish/Swedish marking procedures? If I say it is neither Swedish nor Finnish, it isn't. I think I know my country's marks best in this context. In add...
by Qrt.S
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt
Replies: 26
Views: 1812

Re: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt

@Dendriet I don't quite catch you now. Rosenberg's problem is the incorrect attribution of the year. The mark in Rosenberg is undoubtedly Turku's town mark but from the 18th century. However, it is not the same mark as is discussed here. This mark is rather similar but not enough. Moreover, if it wo...
by Qrt.S
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt
Replies: 26
Views: 1812

Re: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt

@Dendriet You have old original makers marks from Turku / Abo, and would you like to share it with us so that we can compare it Your input came while I was writing. Mind my asking, but "maker's mark"? This is not it, it is a town mark. Anyway, I have quite a good register of known Turku/Åb...
by Qrt.S
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt
Replies: 26
Views: 1812

Re: 16th Cenury Dutch? French? Silver knife hilt

Interesting discussion going on....Yes, there are some similarities with Turku/Åbo's town crest but also similarities to more than a dozen of other crowned As in Europe. Most of them are from France (Paris, Rouen, Metz...). By the way who says it is the letter A in the first place? It could as well ...
by Qrt.S
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: need help identifying icon maker
Replies: 3
Views: 558

Re: need help identifying icon maker

You would do all readers a big favour yourself included if you clean the marks before you show them. The marks are a smudge. Nonetheless, my best shot would be without any guaranties that it is Moscow and not St. Petersburg. The hallmark seems to be from before 1882. The maker's mark looks like С.Г....
by Qrt.S
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Help with identifying hallmarks on this beaker, plz?
Replies: 5
Views: 394

Re: Help with identifying hallmarks on this beaker, plz?

@Ubaranda,
Yes, of course it is him, the maker's mark is up side down. How stupid of me not to realize that....tok, tok, tok!
Nice doing Ubaranda!
by Qrt.S
Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:36 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Help with identifying hallmarks on this beaker, plz?
Replies: 5
Views: 394

Re: Help with identifying hallmarks on this beaker, plz?

It is a Polish vodka or a kiddush cup with two sets of marks ,old and new marks. The lower set carry the old marks. From left: The maker's mark (SH), unknown to me. The fineness mark 84 zolotniki (875/1000) and Warsaw's town mark , the double headed eagle. The last mark to the right ???? no idea, bu...

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