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I believe the assay mark is an 84 inside a keystone shape, in the close photo i noticed that you can just make out the 4 & the pic is upside down. ADMIN EDIT - Please see: Posting Requirements

Did the best i could with the hallmarks pics here they re, upon close examination the crossed T top is the same width as the center cross line, and i believe the tip is amber,

I didnt think so either, thats why im here, and it looks like the trail may end her e, if indeed this piece is a as of until now an unknown russian silversmith . Im trying to get some better pic done now , thanks for the help guys.

Added a new pic , something happened to the first one during upload. It shows the hallmarks thank you all for whatever help you can provide.

Sry folks..... http://postimg.org/gallery/6qzee8gs/
Should show the item , i believe it may be french because of the keystone shaped hallmark containing what may be a form of the cross of lorraine and the #8, the other mark is a perhaps a sylized J followed by a K . Hope this .helps ps the ends of ...

Trying to identify the craftsman/ silversmith who made this piece. My father believes it is the work of "john kinzie" , but i'd like more imput from you thank you.

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