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by Yacorie13
Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:44 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help



... I am happy with that so we can have it to be 175?. Then all is clear, just like to be exact.
If only you knew how glad I am!))). There were absolutely no questions related to the year from the very beginning (except for the last digit).


Thank you so much to the both of you for engaging ...
by Yacorie13
Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help


Take a close look at the number before '5'. Which number do you see? I see a '4'.

Also Yacorie13 stated on 21.1 klo 9.24: 'The number before the 5 - definitely appears to look more like a 4 then a 7'.

I think the year has probably shifted one number left when double struck? Therefore the last ...
by Yacorie13
Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:10 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help


This is the stamp of the 18th century. This means that the first two digits are "17.." The third digit is clearly visible, it reads "5". The last figure has suffered a lot. If it wasn't there at all, then I would assume that there should be a number "1". There are reasons for this. But judging by ...
by Yacorie13
Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:59 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

Thank you Juke* for your explanation. I think your reasoning makes perfect sense. On my side I'm just trying to look into anything that was mentioned as a possibility. For me, I enjoy learning about the items I find and this is no different.
by Yacorie13
Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:49 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

Thank you Mart
by Yacorie13
Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:23 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

I wanted to ask about the depiction of the people on the item itself.

On this thread it was suggested that the decoration is likely depicting Peter the Great and Catherine 1 or Elizabeth. If the item was later, it could be depicting Catherine the Great.

In my original post, I stated that it was ...
by Yacorie13
Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:17 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

Thank you everyone for your contribution to this thread. For me, it has been a great learning experience and has allowed me to search for additional information on the marks and the item. I want to try and put together a quick summary of what I think I've followed from the thread so I can put it ...
by Yacorie13
Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

If you mean on the bottom of the base - there are no other marks. I’ll take pics and post them in the morning
by Yacorie13
Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:22 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

I have read that page - thank you. I've tried to read a lot of webpages and old threads etc to figure it out before I posted here. Generally I don't know anything about it but love researching all kinds of items I come across - this one happens to be russian silver.

I'm happy to take additional ...
by Yacorie13
Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help


@Mart
It is a question of understanding but also doubts.
Nothing is carved in stone regarding old Russian silver. In addition no one (neither you nor me..) knows it all with 100% certainty. You know that very well! In addition, the assayer is less interesting than the maker. He is only an official ...
by Yacorie13
Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:42 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

Thank you both for your comments and responses. I’m not questioning what you are saying just offering questions in general because i know nothing about it.

I will polish it and see how it looks polished.

The mark next to the AK on the rim also appears to be St. George on a horse but it’s stamped ...
by Yacorie13
Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:56 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

Thank you for the response. The lack of a purity mark was definitely something that confused me when I was trying to figure out what this might be. I have to admit that adding a purity mark seems like it would be easy if you’re trying to “deceive” someone. Did they all have purity marks?

Your ...
by Yacorie13
Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help


Hello!
The assay mark is "AK".
This combination of brands was used in Moscow in the first half of the 1750s. Wait for other opinions on the authenticity of the product. Good luck!


Thank you Mart -

Hoping someone can provide additional information on mark authenticity along with who the ...
by Yacorie13
Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:13 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

here are four more pictures of the sides of the chalice cup. I was told these could be saints or could be Sofia Tsarvna and her brothers Peter and Ivan

https://i.postimg.cc/wx2zx2gx/IMG-2144-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/4dh1LBP6/IMG-2145-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/d18yZXnx/IMG-2146-1.jpg ...
by Yacorie13
Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:08 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

Try again. Hopefully these work and i'll add some others. The four photos below show the overall chalice, the marks on the bottom of the stem (AK and st george), the marks on the edge of the cup (AK and I'm not sure) and then another mark on the edge of the cup that looks like a JS of similar ...
by Yacorie13
Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Re: Russian silver chalice - goblet help

I thought I had done it correctly based on previews - sorry about that - let me try to do this again
by Yacorie13
Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:34 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian silver chalice - goblet help
Replies: 42
Views: 7961

Russian silver chalice - goblet help

New member here so thank you for having me.

I’ve recently come across this chalice and was trying to research what it was. Although I wasn’t able to figure it out myself someone informed me the marks I see is actually Saint George slaying a dragon with a date code below. On the bottom there is ...

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