"O"-within-diamond..a possible explanation?

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"O"-within-diamond..a possible explanation?

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Two samples found together. First (top), one of three like forks all with "2ND" stamp but only this one with name of supplier "Great Lakes Hotel Supply Company [founded 1933 in Detroit and now known as Great Lakes Restaurant Supply]. Marked as Oneida Hotel Plate and appears to be Seneca Pattern (1927-on). Second (bottom), a lone sample with same "2ND" mark and maker identified as Warren Silver Plate Company (branding name of Wm A. Rodgers N.Y. after 1901, passed on to Oneida control with Rodgers absorption). Pattern not identified, but carries dual-reeding and shape is similar to some 1920's era patterns. Presumably, the "2ND" is not a manufacturer's seconds notation, but probably added by the supplier after they aquired a re-sold stock.
Both samples have the same "O-in-diamond" mark at the base of handle. Could this represent Onieda within the old Warren diamond shape (originally with words around it). Perhaps a little used mark similar to that of Diamond Silver Company (DS-in-diamond). I occassionally run into a lone diamond (aligned this way) with no letter inside, but this was something new. Anyone else encounter it?

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Re: "O"-within-diamond..a possible explanation?

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This Diamond-O has now been spotted in conjunction with a standard Wm A. Rogers mark, an Oneida holding after 1929. Rainwater did have a mark sample for Diamond-W attached to words "Silver Plate", so it seems possible the O simply replaced the W at some point.
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Re: "O"-within-diamond..a possible explanation?

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An additional note on letter-in-diamond marks, Rainwater noted "S-F" in diamond was a mark for Sheldon & Feltman Albany NY thought used on some silverplate. This was mainly a britannia firm with other known marks and operating 1846-48. Replaced by Smith & Feltman (1849), thence Smith & Co. (1853). The terms Argentina and later Argentine, used by the firms, were belived a reference to the silverplate production (noted under her Smith & Co. entry).
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