help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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Hi, I've been trying to research the hallmarks on this tea caddy, I have worked out the English hallmarks (1900/1901) but have been unable to find information on the German marks.

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Re: help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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Hi,
It`s Weinranck & Schmidt, Hanau
http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html
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Thanks so much :)
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Re: help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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The sponsor`s mark of John George Smith, London, the importer.
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Re: help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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Hi,

The Crowned R,and the other marks to me appear not to be for Weinranck & Smidt but unattributed pseudo marks on Hanau style silver.


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Re: help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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Hello again,
The mark resembling corn does appear very often with well documented Weinranck & Smidt marks (initials, pellets in circle, bunch of grapes).
Four examples are given bellow.
Two marks on the left do not occur with Weinranck & Smidt marks, or at least I have not seen this combination. As we know, various combinations of marks were used by Hanau silversmiths. My approach was quite simple; identifying one mark in the set was good enough (except for cases where documented marks were used by more than one silversmith, bunch of grapes being the example).
On the other hand, ``corn mark`` of Weinranck & Smidt shown here with documented marks, is so distinctive, it`s beyond understanding it could have been unscrupulously used by another silversmith as if he run out of ideas how to create his own pseudo mark.
Another possibility could be joint venture created by two silversmiths, or commissioned by another silversmith (the practice well known among Bohemian glass-makers at the time).

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Re: help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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I stand corrected. On closer inspection, the mark in original post is similar to B.Neresheimer and sons (s520).
The same link to Hanau marks.
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Re: help with identifying tea caddy with two sets of hallmarks

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Hello again,
Excuse me for being wrong and attributing the mark to Weinranck & Schmidt.
Marks 1 and 2 found on John George Smith silver imported from Hanau.
Mark 3 is Neresheimer.
http://www.silvercollection.it/germansi ... arks4.html
And again s520 in
http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html
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