Need some help to identify this silver hallmark, please!

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flintstone
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Need some help to identify this silver hallmark, please!

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Hello everybody,
I need some help to identify this silver hallmark and maker´s mark on the bottom of a ″Habsburgian″ Empire Baroque silver beaker, dated by style circa 1690/1700, depicting the HRR Emperor Leopold I.

The hallmark and the maker´s mark are not fully visible, so I guess it is even more problematic to identify it. Any guess what this hallmark stands for? Maybe I took the picture from the wrong side and the maker´s mark M... is the hallmark W?

Many thanks in advance for your kind help.
Best Flintstone
Theoderich
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Re: Need some help to identify this silver hallmark, please!

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nice

there are some towns with M as hallmark

Meiningen
Marburg
Meißen
Malchin
Merseburg
Hannoversch Münden
Münnerstadt
Freystadt

are some of them
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Re: Need some help to identify this silver hallmark, please!

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makersmark is MK

only a shot in the sky
in Marburg was a goldsmith Matthäus Klingelhöfer I, * 8.4.1649 oo 8.8.1672 +1710
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Re: Need some help to identify this silver hallmark, please!

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Dear Theoderich,
thank you very much for sharing your opinion with me. Maker´s mark "MK" is an interesting hint.

But in case the second silver mark is the hallmark, I should turn the beaker 180° around and then the silver mark "M" is the letter "W". Or would you say that the hallmark can also be situated on the right side, this means second place?

Best regards
flintstone
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Re: Need some help to identify this silver hallmark, please!

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dear flintstone

there are some other shots in the sky

Merseburg:
Martin Klies, oo < 1678 .. 1702 ..
Moritz Krölle, .. < 1693 < ..


about the Differenz of W and M
I have seen many of this and in most cases a M is different to W

this is an example of the difference
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