Nuremberg cup
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yes it is, but very late
IFE=Johann Friedrich Ehe
*1735 M1773 +1808
v=1779-1783
IFE=Johann Friedrich Ehe
*1735 M1773 +1808
v=1779-1783
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Does not it look too thin silver for such a cup?
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Hi,
This letter was described in Rosenberg No.3798 as ``Mitte des 19. Jahrhunderts,vielleicht auch zweite Hälfte``
Mid 19th century, possibly also second half (19th century).
But he died in 1808.Looks genuine;there were several beakers by him of this form and decor (Schuppenbecher) auctioned elsewhere.
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This letter was described in Rosenberg No.3798 as ``Mitte des 19. Jahrhunderts,vielleicht auch zweite Hälfte``
Mid 19th century, possibly also second half (19th century).
But he died in 1808.Looks genuine;there were several beakers by him of this form and decor (Schuppenbecher) auctioned elsewhere.
Regards
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HI AG2012.
You can write again I do not really understand;(
You can write again I do not really understand;(
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About 20 cm tall,275 g.Does not it look too thin silver for such a cup?
About 7 cm tall, 80 g.
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Thank you very much.
Naturally, this is very strange. How to explain it?
Naturally, this is very strange. How to explain it?
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Below a post with a cup of the samesilversmith . How to refer to the question from this post?
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25626
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25626
Re: Nuremberg cup
Eighteen century and earlier holloware (e.g. teapots, beakers, cups) were raised on stake with hammer from a single piece (sheet) of silver.
Nineteen century examples are usually made by circular bending of silver sheet,soldered at the side, and then bottom attached to it (soldered).
It may not be the golden rule, but solder line indicates later production.
Nineteen century examples are usually made by circular bending of silver sheet,soldered at the side, and then bottom attached to it (soldered).
It may not be the golden rule, but solder line indicates later production.
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AG2012 wrote:See for yourself here (relevant page from Rosenberg / Nürnberg).
Red arrow to the mark on your beaker.
Text on the right in German:
Mid 19th century, possibly also second half (19th century).
Rosenberg was wrong.
d ( looks like a v) =1779-1783
ref: Karin Tebbe, Weltkunst, Teil 61, Nürnberger Marken, Juli 2003, S.1028
OK .. it is not an v but a "d"
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AG2012 wrote:Eighteen century and earlier holloware (e.g. teapots, beakers, cups) were raised on stake with hammer from a single piece (sheet) of silver.
Nineteen century examples are usually made by circular bending of silver sheet,soldered at the side, and then bottom attached to it (soldered).
It may not be the golden rule, but solder line indicates later production.
there is a point in the centre of bottom
-> "raised on stake with hammer from a single piece (sheet) of silver."
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Hello. Due to my poor English, please write again from which year is this cup, because I got lost
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I thought date letters from second half 18th century were capital letters and German script (cursive) 19th century.
Cannot explain the controversy with this beaker.
Cannot explain the controversy with this beaker.
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d =1779-1783madej wrote:Hello. Due to my poor English, please write again from which year is this cup, because I got lost
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