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madej
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Fake hallmarks

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Hi.This hallmark.is.fake?Please click on the image for.better quality.
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Hi madej -

looks like W. Kangin from St. Petersburg - remarked in Latvia.
If you can not provide decent photos and handle the "Preview" button - dispense with posting!

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Goldstein,

There are two different spoons. Second spoon with enamel, from Moscow.
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Hi Dad -
many thanks for your help - I saw that.
W. Kangin made no enamel! But the second spoon shows no maker - only town mark, silver content and remarking from Latvia - I have allowed myself to mention that - maybe a little confusing for the inexperienced user and photo artist ...I try to get better!

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Sorry for the bad pics previously.
For better quality please click on the photo.
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Last edited by oel on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Hi madej -
the enamel spoon was made by GK = Gustav Klingert, Moscow - famous firm.

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Hallmark875 is not strange?
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I am not so sure about the maker being Gustav Klingert. He very seldom used Latin letters i.e GK in his punches. Usually he punched ГК., КЛИНГАРТ, KLINGERT rarely GK. Note with a dot! (if he at all used GK, it is as for now still a bit unclear.) Undoubtedly the letters looks very much like GK (Latin) but more like Cyrillic CK (Latin SK). That would be Semen Kasakov in St Petersburg around 1889-1900 also known for his enameled objects, P#2881. Use the search function with "Kasakov" and you will find more information and discussions about the mark, him and Klingert. In addition, the photo of the set is not clear enough to see the enameled pattern. It would probably have helped to see it.

About the "strange" hallmark. Goldstein already mentioned that it is a Latvian remarking punch used after Latvia became independent 1918 (-1945). Without this mark silver objects could not be officially sold in Latvia.
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Hi -
a photo tells more than thousand words:
Gustav Klingert
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Semen Kasakov
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often you can distinguish the maker only by the use of the typical enamel colours!

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We are talking about madej's spoon only.
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