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17th Century William Fowle??

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:01 am
by lrose48
All research so far leads me to William Fowle, latter 1600s. Am I correct?? Help!

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mark within box WF , Britannia mark beside it--
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:29 am
by larkfield
I would be interested in knowing what the article is? I keep looking at the right hand mark which you note as Britannia and I cannot connect Britannia to the poor image on my screen. It looks more like a castle.
If the mark is Britannia, this British Standard was introduced in 1697, and I understand William Fowle died in 1682, although this may not be correct.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:39 am
by larkfield
re ealier reply,sorry can't read my own writing, William Fowle died in 1684 on my note.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:22 am
by lrose48
What would a castle be? When we look under a strong magnifier it looks more like the seated woman?
It's all a mystery for us at this point. But who else has the WF mark??
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:47 am
by Granmaa
Can you tell us what this object is?

Miles
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:29 am
by lrose48
It is a shallow [semi flat] dish [?], which is mother-of pearl. It is mounted on a silver bamboo designed tripod, and attached with a silver butterfly that basically screws onto the tripod.
I will attempt to post photo. I know that Willaim fowle was known for approx. three years work under his Uncle Thomas Fowle. I also know, via the victoria and Albert Museaum that during that period WF was known for dressing table sets and the silversmiths of that time were into chinese design [as they thought it would be].
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:47 am
by lrose48
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:04 am
by dragonflywink
I think you're looking at a late 19th-early 20th century Chinese Export piece, the design and marks are pretty typical.

~Cheryl
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:04 pm
by Waylander
Agreed - I would not have thought that England knew what bamboo was at that time!

Waylander
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:28 pm
by Granmaa
Perhaps the maker is Wang Hing.

Here is an almost identical piece by him:
http://www.bexfield.co.uk/03/e230.htm

Miles
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:20 pm
by admin
The maker is Wing Fat, like Wang Hing also of Hong Kong, worked in the last quarter 19th cent. and probably a bit into the 20th. Would like to find a clear image of his mark for the 925-1000.com ~ Chinese Export Marks page. Anyone have one?
Regards, Tom
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:54 pm
by lrose48
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0007-6287(199306" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)135%3A1083%3C386%3ADPBT'L%3E2.0.CO%3B2-3

I have also tried to find the mark of the chinese maker... but the above article is VERY interesting regarding WF william Fowle

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posted by lrose48 on 5/19/2007 in european silver wrote:This is a far better photo of the mark that I am trying to ID than the one earlier posted. I am still having no luck finding this.
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(admin note - Please add any more notes to this thread, don't start a new one in a different category, it just causes confusion.)

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Re: 17th Century William Fowle??

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:28 am
by 2209patrick
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Re: 17th Century William Fowle??

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:01 pm
by rauls
2209patrick wrote:Image
WingFat - A CES company
"紹記" - "" used in company name generally means "bench", so it probably is a bench of WingFat