Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

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kurban
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Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby kurban » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:49 am

Can anyone help shed some light on maker or origin of these spoons. Thanks...

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby kurban » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:35 pm

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby Aguest » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:02 pm

I think you are in the correct sub-forum, these hallmarks at first appear to be British hallmarks, but they were an attempt to imitate British hallmarks which was happening in America circa 1850, so these would most likely be considered American Coin Silver spoons, although I have seen a few spoons which were of Sterling Silver content which had similar pseudo-hallmarks :::

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby kurban » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:39 am

Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby Traintime » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:38 pm

Don't want to spoil your day, but has their been a test for metals content? May just be my own inclinations, but personally I would start out with the assumption of psuedo-marks on plateware until content is known. In addition, it would help to note the location of where these surfaced. Four letter monograms are not as ubiquitous in the United States as three letter versions and might be related to a commercial user....can't say what is normal for Canada. The "L" at the end might be for "Lines", a common word in ocean vessel trades. Without that metals content to start with, I would keep an open mind on what you have until more is known. Can you photo the entire back side so the experts here might render a judgement on these (and I'm not one of them..just curious). Hope you've stumbled onto something very interesting!

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby Traintime » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:47 pm

In addition, my reading of the monograms is CAML with various spacings and no periods..is that correct to your eyes? I don't want to inject too much into this yet, but something like Canadian American Merchant Lines would be a commercial possibility if this is plated brass.

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby paulh » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:15 pm

From the style of the spoon, the engraving and the pseudo hallmark, I would say that these were American from the first half of the 19th century.

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby wev » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:42 am

Mid 19th century generic coin silver spoons made by the Gilbert/Gilbert & Cunningham/F. W. Cooper association of wholesale manufacturers. These marks are found countermarked with scores of retail marks, almost all centered around New York City. Very common.

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Re: Help with hallmarks British Colonial ?

Postby AG2012 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:32 am

Hi,
The mark and retailers have been discussed here:
http://www.smpub.com/ubb/Forum19/HTML/000526.html

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