What-is-it question CLXV.

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What-is-it question CLXV.

Postby 2209patrick » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:57 pm

The piece in the middle of the picture below has me curious.

It is shown in an old French catalog along with a series of forks.
Underneath it is written "Hummer-Gabel". Tried the usual online translaters, but no luck.

Could this be a tuning fork ? If not, any others ideas welcome.

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Postby salmoned » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm

Lobster fork?
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Postby 2209patrick » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:06 pm

Hi Salmoned.

A lobster fork is a good idea.
Let's wait and see what other members think.

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Postby dragonflywink » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:15 pm

It's a lobster fork/pick, not sure why a French catalog would have the name in German though.

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Postby dognose » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:26 pm

Hi Pat,

Agree with Cheryl and salmoned, a pick at one end and a scoop at the other.

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Postby 2209patrick » Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:23 am

Thanks everyone.

The scan is of a Orfevrerie Deetjen catalog that was displayed in the book "French Silver Cutlery of the XIXth Century".
http://tinyurl.com/non4op

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Deetjen «Hummergabel» = lobster fork

Postby silverport » Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:57 pm

Hello,

Of course «Deetjen» was a little producer, galvanizer and retailer in Strasbourg/Alsace for German speaking area in that time west of river Rhine. Settled there long time before in 19th century. After First World War he started a dependency in town Freudenstadt, Black Forest area. After Second World War he was settled only there but now don't exist any more.

His «Façonware» = pure Alpacca articles in first (N or AI = Neusilber), second (AII) and very seldom third (Packfong) alloy quality he buys from AWS = August Wellner Söhne, Aue/Sachsen or K&B = Koch & Bergfeld, Bremen for to be galvanized in his own workshop (reason: less duty).

Signed weight of pure silver plated (e.g. 90, 100 ...) and only with his own Maker's Mark - one in a triangle inscribed capital antique letter D, surounded by 3 stars. Maker's mark has some similarity to mark of Wolfer's Freres, Bruxelles - between these two companys existed some cooperation (and ownership?) too.

I've made this additional notice only for to explain some more details on «Deetjen» as well.

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Postby dragonflywink » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:04 am

Ah, now it makes sense, an Alsatian firm. My maternal grandfather's family was from Alsace-Lorraine, considered themselves French but the family name was German.

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Re: What-is-it question CLXV.

Postby Traintime » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:59 pm

Could Deetjen name have survived? It appears as a French silverplater bowl mark in rectangle for a spoon made for WagonLits using the modernized late 20th Century logo design (conjoined Wl).

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Re: What-is-it question CLXV.

Postby Traintime » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:04 pm

Ok, I overlooked it. Main mark for E. Deetjen here: https://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_D.html


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