Hi team,
I got this piece the other day, the vendor thought it was early Russian. Would this be right?
As always, any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Ben
Russian Soup Ladle?
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
Hello,
its a interesting ladle, but not from Russia.
The letters of the makers mark are greek (it looks like "ΣΤΕΦΑΝΟ" , STEFANO).
Regards, Ringo
its a interesting ladle, but not from Russia.
The letters of the makers mark are greek (it looks like "ΣΤΕΦΑΝΟ" , STEFANO).
Regards, Ringo
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
This post remembers me of my post "G.Ligieri 14 Athens?" from 25.Sept. 2014, which ended with the discussion if 14 means 14 Lot.
Perhaps Bahner knows the maker.
Regards silverfan
Perhaps Bahner knows the maker.
Regards silverfan
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
Hi,
It`s very unlikely Greek (let`s not forget Cyprus) silversmiths would use Loth standard.
A few examples have been recorded in countries neighboring Austria - Hungary, i.e. silversmiths who were apprentices there and applied Loth back home in mid 19th century, but Greece was too far, even as a part of Ottoman Empire at the time.Besides,14 Loth was not common even in Austria.
A circumstantial evidence would be checking the ladle - is it .875 ?
I would opt for some kind of registration number with the guild, rather than 14 Loth.
Regards
It`s very unlikely Greek (let`s not forget Cyprus) silversmiths would use Loth standard.
A few examples have been recorded in countries neighboring Austria - Hungary, i.e. silversmiths who were apprentices there and applied Loth back home in mid 19th century, but Greece was too far, even as a part of Ottoman Empire at the time.Besides,14 Loth was not common even in Austria.
A circumstantial evidence would be checking the ladle - is it .875 ?
I would opt for some kind of registration number with the guild, rather than 14 Loth.
Regards
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
Hi all,
Could it be that this is the solution of the misunderstanding?
The number 14 is the measure of capacity of the ladle (fluid Oz)
14 fl oz = 0.39778 liters.
Google: Measurements for Cooking, cooking and foods of Provence
For sizes which are used in the kitchen
Google: omrekenen.eu/volume/fluid-ounce-fl-oz.html
For converting fl oz in liters
I have deliberately chosen not to include the links to avoid reacting Trev.reacting Trev.
Regards
Dendriet
Could it be that this is the solution of the misunderstanding?
The number 14 is the measure of capacity of the ladle (fluid Oz)
14 fl oz = 0.39778 liters.
Google: Measurements for Cooking, cooking and foods of Provence
For sizes which are used in the kitchen
Google: omrekenen.eu/volume/fluid-ounce-fl-oz.html
For converting fl oz in liters
I have deliberately chosen not to include the links to avoid reacting Trev.reacting Trev.
Regards
Dendriet
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
If so, then it`s more likely Cypriot with British measures before metric system.
I doubt liquid ounces would have been used in continental Greece.
Assumption only, but I suppose that`s forum discussion for.
Regards
I doubt liquid ounces would have been used in continental Greece.
Assumption only, but I suppose that`s forum discussion for.
Regards
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
Hi AG2012,
in around 1850 Greece was no longer part of the Ottoman Empire. In Athens there were a lot of Bavarian craftsmen. Reread my post; I made the x-ray-test.
Regards silverfan
in around 1850 Greece was no longer part of the Ottoman Empire. In Athens there were a lot of Bavarian craftsmen. Reread my post; I made the x-ray-test.
Regards silverfan
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
Hi Dendriet,
There's no problem linking providing it is not a direct link to a commercial website.
Trev.
There's no problem linking providing it is not a direct link to a commercial website.
Trev.
Re: Russian Soup Ladle?
Interesting!
Thanks team.
Thanks team.