Match safe with tinder cord

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Goldstein
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Match safe with tinder cord

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Hi all -

found a nice rare match safe with tinder cord in form of a boot.
Is the town mark Wladikavkas? Know someone the name of the maker БA? PL # 3183

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There exist many forms and qualities - when you find them....

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Qrt.S
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The town mark is from Novocherkassk. Unfortunately the maker БА is unknown to me.
The maker БА in Wladikavkas was active 1899-1908. That means that the hallmark should be a left looking kokshnik. There is no kokshnik but a separate 84 mark indicating that the object is made before 1882.
Goldstein
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Hi -

you are right! The townmark of Novocherkassk was in use 1847-1880 (PL # 3127) so the timespan is given. I overlooked it several times while searching.
In the 2 books about silversmiths from that region I have, the name Agabadov Bagdasar (1851-1860) shows up. If it is him I do not know.

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Anyway - thanks for your efforts!

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Hi

It is very widespread type of souvenirs for vacationers on Caucasus Mineralnye Vody region.
Often it had the inscription "Caucasus". (spoons, cups, cigarette cases, purses etc)
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Hi Dad -

here you have your inscription:

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and here the evolution from match to lighter in Russia:

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Yes )) Nice collection!
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Hi Dad -
never start collecting something - you start with one object and end up in a tent in the garden - all rooms of the house are occupied....

Just the "matchbox cover corner"...

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Hi -

a little update...
cleaned and rigged:

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Goldstein
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