Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

PHOTOS REQUIRED - marks + item
Post Reply
sophanome1
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:15 pm

Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by sophanome1 »

I've spent hours trying to figure out what this item it. It has russian silver hallmarks and a stag handle. The curved, chisel edge blade measures 2-7/8" long. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Image
Image
AG2012
contributor
Posts: 5576
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:47 am

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by AG2012 »

Hi,
I think this is home made fantasy knife.
Kokoshnik mark (enlarged here) is completely wrong and``88`` fineness .916 is absurd.
Let`s wait for more responses.
Regards

Image
amena
contributor
Posts: 1305
Joined: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:42 am

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by amena »

Excuse me if I ask for clarification, Russian silver is not really my field, but on this site
http://www.silvercollection.eu/russians ... lmark.html
there are some examples of Russian silver with fineness 88.
Are they fake?
The object could be a cigar cutter?
Thanks for the attention
Amena
AG2012
contributor
Posts: 5576
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:47 am

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by AG2012 »

There was 88 zolotniki fineness, mostly used by prominent silversmiths for the highest quality objects.
Being softer alloy than 84 I see no logic in using it for cutting edge of any kind.
Cannot figure out how the knife works and its purpose, but again, I find this kokoshnik mark wrong in many aspects.
Qrt.S
contributor
Posts: 3801
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:32 am
Location: Helsinki Finland

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by Qrt.S »

I don't either know what it is used for, but if it is supposed to be a knife, it is useless. The "silver" is too soft. Moreover, I also share AG 2012's opinion, the marks are pure fantasy even if there are some similarities. They have, anyway, nothing to do with Russia
Goldstein
contributor
Posts: 1256
Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:53 am

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by Goldstein »

Hi -

I think it was the first Russian boomerang. The owner wanted to throw it away - but it came always back....

another masterpiece - maybe from the same workshop:

Image
Image
Image
?????
Image

Long thought lost - recently reappeared ......

Regards
Goldstein
sophanome1
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:15 pm

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by sophanome1 »

Thanks for the replies. As far as 88 silver being useless for a cutting edge, there are sterling bladed folding fruit knives. Maybe this could this be some type of specialized fruit knife?
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59003
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by dognose »

Hi sophanome1,

Welcome to the Forum.

Does the handle fold, or is it in a fixed position?

Trev.
AG2012
contributor
Posts: 5576
Joined: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:47 am

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by AG2012 »

Hello again,
Fineness ``88`` is not the main issue here.Its advantage was better casting properties (relief details) and was mostly used for exquisite objects.
Unfortunately,whatever the purpose of this strange object (with serrated edges), marks have nothing to do with Imperial Russian marks.
Best wishes
sophanome1
Posts: 7
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:15 pm

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by sophanome1 »

No it does not fold. This is the other side.

Image
Goldstein
contributor
Posts: 1256
Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:53 am

Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife

Post by Goldstein »

Hi -

I bet it was sold as "cirgumsision tool"......

Regards
Goldstein
Post Reply

Return to “Russian Silver”