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polman
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Hello everybody,
What could it be? A pill box? And what about maker and dating? Holland probably.
Thank you for any information.
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Hi, Dutch silver lodereindoosje, made in Amsterdam in 1793.
The English translation would be vinaigrette.
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Amsterdam town mark three Saint Andrew's Crosses year letter ɪ for 1793. I believe the maker's mark to be a duck for;Christoffel Woortman, registered silversmith in Amsterdam 1778-1801 and known maker of small boxes, needle cases, corkscrews & tobacco boxes .
For a little extra information see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 028#p80323

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Thanks a lot.
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I have seen this type of box referred to as a "Peppermint Box," but this might be too small to be a "Peppermint Box," and I never even really understood what a "Peppermint Box" is anyway....
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Hi Aguest, for your information.

Lodereinbox in the form of an armoire(kabinet)
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Lodderein box or loderein box. Small scent box, in two halves and often hinged box containing a little sponge, soaked with cologne water. To prevent the cologne water from evaporating too quickly, a loddereinbox is often higher than wide. By the middle of the eighteenth century the lodderein box came into fashion as a general fashion accessory and remained in use throughout the 19th century. The eighteenth-century models are mostly cartouche-shaped and have a rolled or stamped representation. In particular, the improved stamping technique that was increasingly used at the end of the eighteenth century, made serial production possible. The name lodderein is a corruption of 'eau de la reine' the French name for "Water of the Queen" or; fragrance; cologne; perfume; toilet water. The sponges held a mixture of perfume or essential oils mixed and the main purpose to mask the stench of unwashed bodies, horse-manure, coal-smoke and other nasal assaults common during the 18th and 19th centuries.
Average size of loderein boxes; 3,0 -5 cm in height, weight 15-30 grams.

Pill boxes.
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Pillbox, small handy box, generally wider than high (about 1 to 1.5 cm) for carrying pills. Pill boxes came into use in the last quarter of the eighteenth century. The earliest specimens had no hinge and were mainly decorated with engravings. In the nineteenth century silversmiths in Schoonhoven produced large numbers of pillboxes that often had the same model. From 1840 on the boxes were decorated with filigree pieces, for example, hearts, balls, acorns. Peppermint and pill boxes are the same objects. The difference in name is determined by the use.

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Filigree pillbox;sizes: 5,1 X 5 X 2,2cm. Weight 68 gram
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Left front three pillboxes, right three lodereinboxes and little coin box. In the back left a snuff box.

Peter.

Source; Janjaap Luijt, Het Zilver Lexicon, images private collection.
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