Coin Purse Hallmarks.

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gumby76
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Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby gumby76 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:52 pm

Searched high and low for information but no luck, any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby SteveDWollongong » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:17 am

Hi,

Just wondering if this might be silver guilt rather than solid gold. The marks are not easy to read...in particular the one with the photo bucket banner across it, but it looks like it could be the Dutch official assay mark(Minerva) and the other the script letter L used between 1906 and 1953 denoting items of less than standard silver content. The diamond shaped mark containing a heart? above the Letter N and ? will be the maker/sponsors mark.

If it is in fact Dutch silver, the Minerva will also have a tiny letter in the cap, denoting the city of assay. This will need to be known to help work out who the maker might be.

Cheers,
Steve

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby dognose » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:39 am

Hi,

Please resubmit the images, but use a different photohost.

https://postimages.org (copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended.

Trev.

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby oel » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:14 am

Hi,

Indeed Dutch silver purse frame (gilded or gold?), maker's mark in the French style being a lozenge with NT under a spade for; Nathanael Teuter, active silversmith in Amsterdam, registered during 1796-1831, died in 1831. This particular mark used 1812/1825. Known marks used by Nathanael Teuter; N.T in a rectangle used during Kingdom Holland 1807 — 1811 ( French occupation), NT under spade in a lozenge 1812/1814 until 1825, NT under a clover 1825-died.
The year letter script J. for 1818.
Please show us a clear image of circular mark; Minerva head(silver) or lion head erased(gold) and/or check for other marks like lion passant/rampant facing left for gold and facing right for silver with different frame/shield shape.

For more information French occupation or Napoleonic era see;
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028#p80300

Peter.

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby gumby76 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:08 am

I hope these can help.
The best photos I could get.

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby gumby76 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:12 am

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby oel » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:41 am

Hi,
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Dutch gold purse frame
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NT under a spade for; Nathanael Teuter, active silversmith in Amsterdam, registered during 1796-1831, died in 1831
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The year letter script J. for 1818.
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Lion rampant facing left with number 2 in a rectangle frame with cut corners for; gold 2nd standard 833/000=20 karat used 14th januari 1814-1 september 1953

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Assay office mark lion head erased for gold; 22/20 and 18 karat used 1814-1906


Peter.

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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby gumby76 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:51 am

Thank you so much Peter.

Would this be the date letter?
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Re: Coin Purse Hallmarks.

Postby oel » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:16 am

Yes indeed year letter script J. for 1818.


Peter


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