Help Identifying Marks - Joseph Rodgers?

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CristinaW
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Help Identifying Marks - Joseph Rodgers?

Post by CristinaW »

Hi All!
I recently came across a fish serving set with ivory handles. There are several sets of hallmarks - one set on the blade of the knife, and two identical sets on the caps on the handles. The prong portion of the fork is not marked.

I believe the silver portion of the handles is sterling, but the blade and the fork may not be? I see what appears to be plate loss on the back of the fork, and edges of the engraving on the knife - but I am not certain if I am interpreting it correctly...

The marks on the handles are slightly obscured but seem to include "JR" in a single oval cartouche, the Sheffield crown mark, the lion passant, and the Queen Victory duty mark. There does not appear to be a date letter.

I am really confused by the marks on the blade. The appear to be capitalized scripted "P" "G" a Maltese cross in a shield, a six pointed star or flower in a circle, and an uppercase scripted "S" in a shield; followed by JR in a butterfly shaped cartouche; that could also be described as two hearts turned sideways and overlapping.

Would this set be attributed to Joseph Rodgers? I have read that he used the Maltese Cross and Star, but in the examples I have seen, they usually appear in reversed order and in one single cartouche. See this thread for an example: http://925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23181#p83529

Any thoughts on the rest of the marks? Is it unusual for the set of marks on the handle to not included a date letter?

Thanks for your help!

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user701
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Re: Help Identifying Marks - Joseph Rodgers?

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I would say it is Joseph Rodgers, but this is their silverplate mark, not silver

http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_R2.html
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Re: Help Identifying Marks - Joseph Rodgers?

Post by dognose »

Hi,

In this case the 'P' 'G' 'S' would likely stand for Plated German Silver. Only the finials, and perhaps the ferules, would be silver, with the date letter combined with the Sheffield town mark.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/dlc_sheffield.html

Trev.
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