Hello all,
I have a set of six spoons none of which has a city mark but they are from two different makers TW & JH below is a pic of the JH hallmark. Any idea what the year/city would be please.
Many thanks
Help with identification (no city mark)
Re: Help with identification (no city mark)
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
See Thomas Wallis and Jonathan Hayne at: http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon15.html#M
The year of assay was 1819. See: http://www.925-1000.com/dlc_london.html
The lack of a town mark was quite normal on small articles assayed at London at this period.
Trev.
Welcome to the Forum.
See Thomas Wallis and Jonathan Hayne at: http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon15.html#M
The year of assay was 1819. See: http://www.925-1000.com/dlc_london.html
The lack of a town mark was quite normal on small articles assayed at London at this period.
Trev.
Re: Help with identification (no city mark)
Thanks Trev,
I had already looked through the makers list you link to and the Johnathan Hayne mark is totally different from the one on my spoons as shown in the picture. Having been though all the city lists there are not even close matches that I can see. but Hayne is definitely not one of them.
I had already looked through the makers list you link to and the Johnathan Hayne mark is totally different from the one on my spoons as shown in the picture. Having been though all the city lists there are not even close matches that I can see. but Hayne is definitely not one of them.
Re: Help with identification (no city mark)
Hi,
There is no controversy in Trev`s attribution.
http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon15.html#M
(scroll down, it`s in the left column).
Thomas Wallis and Jonathan Hayne (``TW JH``)
Grimwade # 2978
Besides, take a look here:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33718
Regards
There is no controversy in Trev`s attribution.
http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon15.html#M
(scroll down, it`s in the left column).
Thomas Wallis and Jonathan Hayne (``TW JH``)
Grimwade # 2978
Besides, take a look here:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33718
Regards
Re: Help with identification (no city mark)
Hi,
That's a TW with a JH below it. Mines just JH on it's own.How can they be the same maker? If I just had the one spoon would you still give the same answer. I'm not trying to be awkward but I always believed a makers mark was pretty unique.
I thought my description along with the picture was clear when I said "two different makers TW & JH below is a pic" that didn't mean JH is below TW it meant "below is a pic" Does the picture not clearly show a makers mark of JH on it's own. Am I just being stupid here or is there something I'm missing.
That's a TW with a JH below it. Mines just JH on it's own.How can they be the same maker? If I just had the one spoon would you still give the same answer. I'm not trying to be awkward but I always believed a makers mark was pretty unique.
I thought my description along with the picture was clear when I said "two different makers TW & JH below is a pic" that didn't mean JH is below TW it meant "below is a pic" Does the picture not clearly show a makers mark of JH on it's own. Am I just being stupid here or is there something I'm missing.
Re: Help with identification (no city mark)
Ahh, Clearly I am being stupid, what you cleaver people spotted but i didn't was the feint TW. which does show above the JH I had spent all my time looking a mark though my glass and the one I look at the TW is simply so worn it can't be seen or maybe just no a ver good impression. Sorry for the confusion
Re: Help with identification (no city mark)
Hi,
Your mark is TW over JH, TW being poorly struck but clearly seen.
Regards
Your mark is TW over JH, TW being poorly struck but clearly seen.
Regards