Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

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kurban
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Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

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Hello, I need help to identify the maker ( CPV? GPV? ) and possibly ownership, they are 7" side plates with coronet and monogram. Ive done a lot of research but couldn't find much online. Thanks for looking.

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Orfèvre : C-P Vahland, 1810-1822, Orfèvrerie : la grosserie, 20 Cour de Harlay 1812, puis 14 quai des Orfèvres 1822.
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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

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The personalization is a 9-point crown of a count. Without a good provenance the initials alone won't help you find the original owner.
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Thank you very much for the help...
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Christophe-Philippe Vahland was succeeded at 14 quai des Orfèvres in 1837 by François Auguste Grattepain, who registered his mark at that address on 1 Feb 1837. Vahland died on 10 Jan 1852, leaving his estate to Grattepain. Grattepain (born 7 May 1797) cancelled his mark on 30 Jun 1856. I cannot find any death date for Grattepain, nor any familial connection between Vahland and Grattepain.

Vahland's listing in the 1829 almanac notes that he was a supplier to the Prince of Waldeck & Pyrmont - at the time Prince George II (1789-1845) – and (translation mine) “maker of all kinds of silverware in the most modern taste, tumblers at the best prices, and will buy old silver”.
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Patronyme M.O. : Grattepain N° 01126
Prénom (Etat civil) : François-Auguste
Initiales : F.G.
Profession : L'orfèvrerie : partie de table.
Lieu d'activité : Paris
Adresse de l'atelier : 14 quai des Orfèvres
Date d'insculpation : 1er février 1837.
Date de biffage : 30 juin 1856
N° Préfecture : 3758.
N° de garantie : 3606
Symbole : un grattoir, une étoile dessus
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Documentation : Archives de la Garantie, Paris : planche d'insculpation n° 33, Archives de la Garantie,
Paris : registre d'insculp. 1820 à 1840.
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Patronyme M.O. : Grattepain N° 01126
Prénom (Etat civil) : François-Auguste
Initiales : F.G.
Profession : L'orfèvrerie : partie de table.
Lieu d'activité : Paris
Adresse de l'atelier : 14 quai des Orfèvres
Date d'insculpation : 1er février 1837.
Date de biffage : 30 juin 1856
N° Préfecture : 3758.
N° de garantie : 3606
Symbole : un grattoir, une étoile dessus
Documentation : Archives de la Garantie, Paris : planche d'insculpation n° 33, Archives de la Garantie,
Paris : registre d'insculp. 1820 à 1840.
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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

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Thank you very much, That is a great help...
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