Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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byronbay55
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Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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Hi!

Can anyone help with these hallmarks? There are two on the base (the heart and the one next to it) and two on the lids rim.


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Best,
Thomas
WarrenKundis
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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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Good day Thomas,

Some challenge marks to be sure. In the first set is that IH then to the right the numerial 3 with sometime above and below it?

Now on the second set take a piece of textured material like the green shawl in the last image then slide it up behind the lip then reshoot. The weave may give the camera lense something to focus on. Then keep shooting until you get the clearest possible image somone can identify.

Good Luck
Warren
byronbay55
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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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Thx, Warren! I'll try to post some better photos tomorrow. Midsummer Eve here in Sweden, so I need to leave the computer for some maypole dancing :)
huszas76
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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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Hello!
The second sets of marks are tax marks from Austria/Hungary.
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 38&t=35107
The first mark (IH) is the maker's mark.
I think, the 2. mark is upside down. Maybe 2 crossed sword. I guess, it's german, one of the cities with similar guild marks. (Dresden, Weissenfells) Maybe some of the german contributors can help,
Best regards!
Krisztián
byronbay55
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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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Wow. thank you Krisztián!

Any thoughts about how old it is? Mid to late 1800s?

Best,
Thomas
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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Post by huszas76 »

Hello Thomas!
It's a really nice box, I like it!
I think, it's rather from the end of the 18. century.
But if you checked the tax marks in my preview link, you saw, that this used in 1806-7 and 1809-10.
Best regards!
Krisztián
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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Post by neurorocker »

I agree. German 3rd quarter 18th century. This oval shape is apparently typical of things used to keep tea in Germany at that time. I have a bronze one in my shop that's not nearly as beautiful. Mine has inner compartments. Does this one?

Nate
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