Origin of this dish

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Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:48 pm

Hello,

here is a silver dish imported in a France (head of boar hallmark), but do you know those other marks and/or where it is from?

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Thank you for your help!

Best regards,

Don

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby amena » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:34 am

A picture of the whole item would help

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:29 pm

Hi Amena!

Thanks for answering! Below two other pics recto/ verso of the dish. Hope it will help!

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Best regards,

Don

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:31 am

Back with another pic takes from another angle of view:

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Hallmark looks to be a "B" or a "P" under a crown: could its origin be Portugal?

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Don

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby AG2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:57 am

Hi,
The crowned 'letter P' mark, for the city of PORTO in Portugal, mid 19th century.
Compare with this mark of unidentified silversmith in Porto working at that time.
Zigzag line is sample of silver taken by the assayer.
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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:07 pm

That's it!

Many Thanks AG2012 ;-)

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:41 pm

One more thing AG2012: what's your opinion about the french "head of boar" on this dish where as it is a portuguese dish? Do you thing custom officers thought it was a franch dish as they don't know thoses marks?

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:26 pm

(I Ask because i first made a mistake saying ''head or boar'' was for french import silver made products !!!)

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby AG2012 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:33 pm

Boar`s head is not an import mark but there is silver with French standard marks (as required) and fantasy marks of unknown origin and without maker`s marks in lozenge :

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Everything in your dish indicates Porto (even the style of lettering in maker`s mark).

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Funkel » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:58 am

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Re: Origin of this dish

Postby Smokanabeach » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:57 am

Perfect Funkel! That's confirm AG2012 opinion!

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