ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

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ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby Ag999 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:57 pm

I just got this Art Nouveau Vanity Jar at a yard sale.
The mark is extremely small. It contains a star (crisp, thin star outline, not solid), the number "572" and an uppercase "MI". Aslo marked ".925"
Any ideas?
Thanks

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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby dognose » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:22 pm

Hi,

It's Italian, made by De Giovanni Argenteria of Milan.

Trev.

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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby dognose » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:50 pm


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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby Ag999 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:26 pm

Thanks for the info!

Further research on this site shows that mark has been used from 1968 onwards, so it's not from the Art Nouveau period, as I had thought it might be.

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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby legrandmogol » Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:55 am

If it is any compensation, the design they used is an almost exact copy of an original art nouveau design by the Webster Co. of the period. It may even be that this company bought the old molds and used them as this design it is so very similar

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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby AG2012 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:47 am

It may even be that this company bought the old molds and used them as this design it is so very similar


Not very likely.
Art nouveau floral motifs and wavy lines were popular and reproduced for many decades and worldwide.
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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby legrandmogol » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:22 pm

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If they didn't purchase Webster's old molds, they nearly completely ripped it off. I also have 3 brushes in the same pattern. When I get home I can get a close up of the Webster Co makers mark but if you zoom in you can see their mark next to the Sterling mark. Purchasing other companies old molds is not unheard of. Webster became a subsidiary of Reed & Barton in 1950 and was sold odd in 1958 to Frank Smith, and with art nouveau entirely out of vogue by then it would have made sense to sell the molds if you could, especially if the company already had a glut of patterns. I have a hairbrush in the Unger Bros "Loves Dream" Pattern but with hallmarks from Birmingham England c.1930's. The brush is not similiar, it is exactly the same as signed Unger Bros. versions. From what I have read, the Unger Bros company did sell their molds as they became unfit for their purposes.
I am not saying that it is a common thing for silver companies to do but as they are businesses I can't think why they wouldn't do it.

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Re: ID? Art Nouveau Vanity Jar "Star 572 MI 925"

Postby AG2012 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Obviously the same pattern,less sharp details in the Italian, though.
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