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Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:16 am
by solo
Good day
Tell me please, or an authentic cup?
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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:18 am
by solo
height 8.5 cm weight 98g

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:03 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Letter N in this form of the mark was used in Lemberg (now Lviv in Western Ukraine).
I think it`s an authentic mark,the maker`s mark is missing, though.
Besides, it`s not profitable to bother with faked Tremolierstich.
That`s all I can tell

Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:29 am
by Scotrab
Hello,

I read the letter in the mark as M, in which case it is not Lemberg (Lwów, Lvov, Lviv) but Brody, a town about 90 kilometres northeast of Lviv, now in Ukraine, still in Galicia (Galizien).

Regards

Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:44 pm
by AG2012
Definitively Galicia (Galizien).
Three town letters have been identified so far:
M Brody
N Lemberg
O Berezhany

Regards

Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:20 pm
by solo
It seems to me that Hallmark is fake,
and made recently.
That's how it should look like this.
Maybe there is someone else's original photo with Brody,
or other cities Galizien?
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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:37 am
by huszas76
Hello! Maybe the Metropolitan Museum can a little bit help to you (us)
There is an item with similar marks in the Nicholas M. Salgo Collection. If they can sent to you copy of the photos of the marks, you can compare.
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There is a wrong identification (Munkács), but I think, Brody is the solution in the peacock too.
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:34 pm
by solo
thank you Krisztián

Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:13 am
by admin
Hello,
I can't speak the marks, but the cup form, decoration and construction technique all point to South American origins. For a good sampling of images of near identical cups, google - Bolivian silver cup.
Regards, Tom