Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

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Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby solo » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:16 am

Good day
Tell me please, or an authentic cup?
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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby solo » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:18 am

height 8.5 cm weight 98g

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby AG2012 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:03 am

Hi,
Letter N in this form of the mark was used in Lemberg (now Lviv in Western Ukraine).
I think it`s an authentic mark,the maker`s mark is missing, though.
Besides, it`s not profitable to bother with faked Tremolierstich.
That`s all I can tell

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby Scotrab » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:29 am

Hello,

I read the letter in the mark as M, in which case it is not Lemberg (Lwów, Lvov, Lviv) but Brody, a town about 90 kilometres northeast of Lviv, now in Ukraine, still in Galicia (Galizien).

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby AG2012 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:44 pm

Definitively Galicia (Galizien).
Three town letters have been identified so far:
M Brody
N Lemberg
O Berezhany

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby solo » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:20 pm

It seems to me that Hallmark is fake,
and made recently.
That's how it should look like this.
Maybe there is someone else's original photo with Brody,
or other cities Galizien?
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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby huszas76 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:37 am

Hello! Maybe the Metropolitan Museum can a little bit help to you (us)
There is an item with similar marks in the Nicholas M. Salgo Collection. If they can sent to you copy of the photos of the marks, you can compare.
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There is a wrong identification (Munkács), but I think, Brody is the solution in the peacock too.
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby solo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:34 pm

thank you Krisztián

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Re: Austro-Hungarian 18th Century

Postby admin » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:13 am

Hello,
I can't speak the marks, but the cup form, decoration and construction technique all point to South American origins. For a good sampling of images of near identical cups, google - Bolivian silver cup.
Regards, Tom


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