Dutch knife with soldiers, 18th century, maker?
Dutch knife with soldiers, 18th century, maker?
I have never seen this knifes with soldiers on it. But this one looks like an exception. Wonderful, however it only marked with a makersmark that I do not recognize. So I need some help to determine this knife. Thanks in advance!
Re: Dutch knife with soldiers, 18th century, maker?
This knife attributed to Voet nr. 522: Bernardus Johannes Jelgerhuis, who (already) became a master at the age of twenty in 1779. He was the third generation in his family, after his father Johannes and his grandfather Bernardus sr. Junior did not grow old: 1759-1805. Apparently he no longer lived in Leeuwarden in recent years but in Rijperkerk/Ryptsjerk, where his father had also lived and died. That may also have led to the fact that no work was known by Bernardus jr. - until the discovery of this knife.
Re: Dutch knife with soldiers, 18th century, maker?
According to K.A. Citroen in Dutch silversmiths marks and names prior to 1812. Bernardus Jelgerhuis II, was registered in Leeuwarden with a letter mark BI executed in italics, 1779-1802.
Bernardus was born in Leeuwarden, Friesland.
Baptized on March 21, 1759 in Leeuwarden. He died in the year 1805
Father: Johannes Jelgerhuis
Mother: Grietie van Sippama
Special features: Bernardus van Jelgerhuis;
buys Sipmastate in Rijperkerk in 1805 and also lives there, sells (widow?)1807
The mark on knife
The mark as shown by Elias Voet Jr. Merken van Friesche Goud-en zilversmeden published 1932
The mark as shown by Elias Voet Jr. Merken van Friese Goud-en zilversmeden publised 1974
NB. Gildebord van zilvergilde or silversmiths' guild board
https://www.friesmuseum.nl/collectie/ob ... smidsgilde
https://www.friesmuseum.nl/en/collectio ... smidsgilde
Could you please explain your attribution? I don't recognize any BI or eagle in the image of the master mark, thanks.
Peter.
Bernardus was born in Leeuwarden, Friesland.
Baptized on March 21, 1759 in Leeuwarden. He died in the year 1805
Father: Johannes Jelgerhuis
Mother: Grietie van Sippama
Special features: Bernardus van Jelgerhuis;
buys Sipmastate in Rijperkerk in 1805 and also lives there, sells (widow?)1807
The mark on knife
The mark as shown by Elias Voet Jr. Merken van Friesche Goud-en zilversmeden published 1932
The mark as shown by Elias Voet Jr. Merken van Friese Goud-en zilversmeden publised 1974
NB. Gildebord van zilvergilde or silversmiths' guild board
https://www.friesmuseum.nl/collectie/ob ... smidsgilde
https://www.friesmuseum.nl/en/collectio ... smidsgilde
Could you please explain your attribution? I don't recognize any BI or eagle in the image of the master mark, thanks.
Peter.
Re: Dutch knife with soldiers, 18th century, maker?
We see no representation of this form in that good old Voet of 1974. a master of whom only a stylized board version is known in Voet. So someone whose work was unknown. In my opinion, this mark most resembles B.J., where the flag of the J flutters emphatically over the letter combination.
Re: Dutch knife with soldiers, 18th century, maker?
I don't think so, it's not plausible to me. The mark is BI in italics, not con-joined. If you see it as possible, you cannot attribute it, but at most mention it.
As you say yourself, you don't come across a Dutch silver knife handle with the image of soldiers, so perhaps not Dutch but Continental or with a fantasy mark.
Peter.
As you say yourself, you don't come across a Dutch silver knife handle with the image of soldiers, so perhaps not Dutch but Continental or with a fantasy mark.
Peter.