City Mark Help (looks like a Star)

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nrduncan
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City Mark Help (looks like a Star)

Post by nrduncan »

My wife's grandmother gave her a Punch Ladle for a graduation present. I've spent some time looking on the site trying to identify the marks. It looks to be a set of british marks, but I can't figure out the City mark. From what I've seen, you need to know the City mark to narrow down the rest so I've been stumped on the first step. As far as I can tell, the city mark looks like a large star with something underneath it. When I looked through all the example British city marks, there was nothing that I saw that was even close.

Am I wrong about it being British? Or am I wrong about it being a star? Or both? Any help identifying it would be appreciated. Also, if you could help me with the rest of the marks, that would be appreciated as well.

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larkfield
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Post by larkfield »

Hi
You are right about it being British. Check closely the third mark from the left with the London Marks for 1805 as being the Leopards Head Crowned, as that is what it looks like to me . I assume the next mark is the Lion Passant. Sorry, can't help you with the maker but I expect one of our more knowledgeable members will respond.
user701
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Post by user701 »

I agree looks like London leopard head and the maker is Thomas Hayter.
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Post by MCB »

Hello,

The date letter K was in use in London from 29th May 1805 to 28th May 1806: incidentally in use at the time of the Battle of Trafalgar.
Thomas Hayter first registered two sizes of oval mark containing TH on 21st May 1805. He is a known maker of flatware.
Thomas Hoare first registered an oval mark containing TH in 1792 and another similar on 31st March 1806. Not much is known about him but his possible involvement in putting the ladle to assay should not be overlooked as the three marks are quite similar and available for use in the letter K period.
For reference see Grimwade's book on London Goldsmiths 1697-1837 items 2787, 2790 & 2791.

Mike
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