Early Dutch Mark?

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excalibur1661
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Early Dutch Mark?

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Hello,

I would be grateful for your expert opinion on the mark on this bowl which somewhat resembles early Dutch in design.

Thank you.

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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Hi,

To me, as a non expert the marks do definitely not look Dutch. I have seen the dumb-belt/halter before somewhere on the forum but not 100% sure about this either. To me the repose brandy bowl could be a replica in Neo rococo style perhaps made in Hanau.
Let us wait what others have to say.

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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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oel wrote:Hi,

To me, as a non expert the marks do definitely not look Dutch. I have seen the dumb-belt/halter before somewhere on the forum but not 100% sure about this either. To me the repose brandy bowl could be a replica in Neo rococo style perhaps made in Hanau.
Let us wait what others have to say.

Regards,

Oel

Thank you for shedding light on the mark.

Regards,

Fred
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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Hi Fred an Oel,

This is a serie of pseudomarks (serie h Citroen, Valse Zilvermerken in Nederland, 1977). Made in the Netherlands, Friesland.

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Thanks Zilverik! Is it possible to show us serie h of Citroen?

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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Hi Oel,

Yes that is possible, but not now. It takes time on machines that do not always cooperate. After the hollidays I will make a scan.

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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Thanks a lot Zilverik.

I would be very grateful if you found the time to scan the mark and have it posted.

Kind rgards,

fred
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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Hi fred,

This is a serie. There are other known series. Sometimes some oarts of the series are changed into other parts of other pseudoseries.

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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Thank you so much Zilverik for your expert opinion on this mystery mark.

Is there any hint at, or do you have any ideas on the circa date of manufacture?

Kind regards,

Fred
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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Hi fred,

Maybe around 1890. Citroen (Valse zilvermerken in Nederland, 1977) mentioned that about 1870 the concept of Antiques for objects older than 100 years entered taxlaws. Silver exporters from Holland made a profit from the low taxs in England and the U.S. for antique silver. In Schoonhoven they made special silver for these countries with pseudomarks. The importers knew that it was not old according to the bookkeeping of a London silvershop.

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Re: Early Dutch Mark?

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Hi Zilverik,

I really appreciate your shedding light on this mark so thoroughly and I may add expertly.

Regards,

Fred
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