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Need help woth Birmingham date
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:08 pm
by larrywseale
Hi
I'm assuming a sugar spoon, the maker is Hilliard & Thomason and the date is 1891 (small r)
Any corrections, please. Thank you.

Re: Need help woth Birmingham date
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:49 am
by MCB
Hello
Hilliard & Thomason as the maker but the date letter looks to me more like the gothic "t" for Birmingham 1893-4.
Regards,
Mike
Re: Need help woth Birmingham date
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:32 am
by trevorg
That was my thoughts also....but the cartouche appears to be the wrong shape for both the gothic "r" and the "t". Each of these date letters are shown as being in an oval cartouche.
Trevor
Re: Need help woth Birmingham date
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:43 am
by MCB
As of course is the cartouche for the letter "r". The published examples of the Birmingham gothic date letter series show inconsistencies in outline, some rectangular, some oval. The suspicion must be that the punches for a particular year produced either shape.
Mike