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Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:17 pm
by OeneDoevendans
Dear all,

A photo recognition tool said that the picture below was a lion passant, but it looks like a deer or stag to me. The other symbols are also explained vaguely. Does anyone have an idea on origin and creation date for these markings!
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Thanks in advance, Oene

Btw here is the object the stamps are on Image

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:25 pm
by OeneDoevendans
OeneDoevendans wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:17 pm Dear all,

A photo recognition tool said that the picture below was a lion passant, but it looks like a deer or stag to me. The other symbols are also explained vaguely. Does anyone have an idea on origin and creation date for these markings!
Image

Thanks in advance, Oene

Btw here is the object the stamps are on Image

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:26 pm
by OeneDoevendans
OeneDoevendans wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:25 pm
OeneDoevendans wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:17 pm Dear all,

A photo recognition tool said that the picture below was a lion passant, but it looks like a deer or stag to me. The other symbols are also explained vaguely. Does anyone have an idea on origin and creation date for these markings!
Image

Thanks in advance, Oene

Btw here is the object the stamps are on Image

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:23 am
by dognose
Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Please post larger images of, at least, the marks.

Trev.

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:11 am
by OeneDoevendans
This is the largest I can take without blur.
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Link is

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:17 am
by dognose
Hi,

They are one of this sequence of platers' marks, often found with a variety of accompanying initials:

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It may be that of a manufacturer of blanks who was supplying silver platers and marked the pieces with their initials.

The below is the mark of Thomas Wilkinson, the fourth mark being his famous Pelican device. His former manufactory, the Pelican Works, is a well known landmark at Birmingham. Thomas Wilkinson was in business from 1832 until 1932.

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Trev.

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:13 am
by OeneDoevendans
Wow, it’s indeed the exact same as that ER mark. Do you have more information on that?

Re: Deer or stag or other animal?

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:31 am
by dognose
Your item is almost certainly the product of Thomas Wilkinson & Co. of Birmingham.

See: viewtopic.php?p=48422&hilit=wilkinson+birmingham#p48422

Trev.