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can you tell me this makers mark A.W.P

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:54 am
by odjob
hi this silver lid i got at the bottom of a box from a sale i think its birmingham 1902 but not now the makers mark and can anyone tell me what it came off





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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:52 pm
by Waylander
Hmm, that mark looks to be that of A.W.Peden, a Glasgow silversmith whose marked was first recorded some time between 1848 and 1903.

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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:40 am
by odjob
hi thank you Waylander can it be a Glasgow silversmith with a birmingham mark im new [img][img]http://x1.putfile.com/7/21002361581.jpg[/img][/img]
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:52 pm
by Waylander
Oh yes. The Assay Office (town mark) was only applied where the silver was tested and approved. So Mr Peden may have made the piece in Glasgow, but it was sent (for reasons unknown) to Birmingham to be assayed. For example, Chester silver is notable for being made everywhere apart from Chester! While some silversmiths actually worked IN Chester, many more simply registered their mark in the city and actually manufactured outside of the city (the main culprits being London and Birmingham).

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:40 am
by odjob
thank you lots Waylander i should now find out the year it is
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:41 am
by Waylander
1902, which fits with the maker.

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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:54 am
by odjob
thank you Waylander posting more now you will wish id never found this site befor long
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Mirror?

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:49 pm
by Shelley
I'm no sure how big it is, but it looks to me like it came off of a vanity jar that used to hold womans powder and sometimes jewelry. Thus the initials on the top. Otherwise check and see if it used to hold a mirror. Not all mirrors had handles at that time. Hope this gives some input!
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:31 am
by Neruda
Another candidate for your mark is A W Pennington who was working in Birmingham in this period and did make vanity jar lids.
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:07 pm
by Gerryl
I concur with Neruda - I feel the mark is A W Pennington and sight as reference p.324 from Kevin Crisp Jones early standard book on the silversmiths of Birmingham and their marks 1750-1980.
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:46 am
by Waylander
I defer my views to those of Gerryl and Neruda - I do not have a copy of Jones.

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:13 am
by odjob
thanks to you all bin a long time pc gone
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