Silver/plated fork

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Silver/plated fork

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Hi.

Can someone please give me information on the name/s on this silverplated fork? 'STOKES' & 'MCARTHUR'. Possibly info re: NAME; LOCATION; YEAR; & any BACKGROUND or HISTORY.

Thank you and kind regards

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Fork for party snacks - maybe »designed by McArthur«?

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Hello

Your fork is a modern version of at least a century usual party snacks forks.

Tines short enough + bowl for soup or delicious dressings.

The prismatic formed shape of bowl permit also to be made from thin material. That's economically very important - because the loss is tremendous by some clients, but also by cleaning up the site.

I suggest to you:

Search for an Industrial Designer "McArthur" — maybe it’s a »Trademark« only? Then find out who has made the registration there fore.

STOKE is maybe a wholesaler for Gastronomic needs (cutlery, plates, glasses ...)? Make a search on wholesalers — maybe also for party services.

Please, let us know your results; thank you!

Kind regards silverport
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Post by dognose »

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

The Splayd was designed by William McArthur in 1943 in Australia.

The design rights were purchased by Thomas Stokes & Sons of Melbourne in the early 1960's. Thomas Stokes himself arrived in Australia from Birmingham, England in the 1850's. Thomas Stokes & Sons were large manufacturers of silver and plated wares up until the 1960's, they are, I believe, still in business and still manufacturing plated flatware but are no longer silversmiths.

Trev.
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And just to show that nothings new, Elkingtons had the same idea back in 1867.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15265" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Trev.
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Splayd?

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ATT: Trev.

Can you tell me what "splayd" means?

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splayd

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Hello again

In my dictionary stand there fore (translated from translation): broad, flat, spread, bend outward, and bend upward.

In terms of design it's a description of object's shape - maybe it has become name for this kind of party's cutlery?

By dognose mentioned Viners »Splayd's« design patent solicitation, and maybe later also by introduction in the market, this word was chosen - maybe also as a Trademark for this kind of cutlery?

On Viners mark, look here: http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_V.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Viners themselves: http://www.viners.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Thank you. Next step - dating.

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Thanx Silverport.

I've found some information on the design and now I know the design is still mass-produced by Stokes, but in Stainless Steel.

This set is EP SILVERPLATED and so, I'm going about checking the possible year of production for my particular set of Splayd forks.

Thanks again and kind regards

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Post by dognose »

Hi,

I always thought it was a play on words, Spoon and Blade, but there may be something more to it.

Here is this link to the Powerhouse Museum site that contains some background: http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/austral ... e_id=10103" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splayd" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards Trev.
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Splayd's - or 1966 a »Göffel« in Germany - were late runn

Post by silverport »

Hello again

It's amazing me how deep and full of "water" the global well of knowledge is.

Thank you, Trev., for these bucket's, full of interest full details!

In about 1966 was a design competition held in Germany - one of the result was the »Göffel« = "Gabel und Löffel" (Fork and Spoon combination; and on both side's a kind of knife function).

Later when I made my research in Patent Offices, I saw a Patent, from after 1871, for a cutlery solution with SAME intention as all here shown objects have.

It look's like the same: invention = reinvented = re-reinvented ...

Like Gale, Wiemer, Krupp ... on rolling die's: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19933" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or other examples: Airplanes, Automobiles, Ship's in Beton, Helicopter’s, Submarine's (for me always the ever best one is: »Yellow Submarine«).

From paulh as a »Mystery Objects« of Elkington presented fork could have similar - or maybe also a totally other? - function.

I'm wonder that nobody of our English members has under taken some further research - on paulh forks is indicated some thing of patent or design patent?

Here in my Exile it's nearly impossible for me to have these broad bend sources in front of my eyes.

There fore I'm especially happy on every input made by Admin, co-admin's, and the other entire contributor's and human's who »coming on board« with their questions.

Kind regards silverport
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