FREDERICK G. ALLAN
33, West Place Street, North Shields
COUNTY COURT JUDGEMENTS
Allan, Fred. G., 33, West Place Street, North Shields , jeweller, £10 17s 10d. December 15, 1914.
Source: The Jeweller and Metalworker - 1st February 1915
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Henry Lamb
Market buildings, Lynn St, West Hartlepool later York Rd.
Silversmith, Watchmaker, Jeweller
.............Kelly's Directory of Durham, 1890
.....................Lamb Henry, silversmith, Market Hall buildings, Lynn St
A secondary source references “Henry Lamb appears in Slaters Directory of 1877 as a watch and clock maker in 9 Market Hall, West Hartlepool”, and apparently established 1873.
..........Kelly's Directory of Durham, 1914
..............West Hartlepool - Watch & Clock makers
...................Lamb Henry, Market buildings, Lynn Street, West Hartlepool
Henry Lamb died on 15 August 1913, succeeded by his son Matthew was a watchmaker, jeweller and silversmith. Mathew died in the 1940’s and the shop passed to Henry Lamb, a grandson of Henry. In 1969 the business moved to York Road and in the 1980’s it left family ownership and was taken on by a John Davey. Still active into the 21st century.
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Market buildings, Lynn St, West Hartlepool later York Rd.
Silversmith, Watchmaker, Jeweller
.............Kelly's Directory of Durham, 1890
.....................Lamb Henry, silversmith, Market Hall buildings, Lynn St
A secondary source references “Henry Lamb appears in Slaters Directory of 1877 as a watch and clock maker in 9 Market Hall, West Hartlepool”, and apparently established 1873.
..........Kelly's Directory of Durham, 1914
..............West Hartlepool - Watch & Clock makers
...................Lamb Henry, Market buildings, Lynn Street, West Hartlepool
Henry Lamb died on 15 August 1913, succeeded by his son Matthew was a watchmaker, jeweller and silversmith. Mathew died in the 1940’s and the shop passed to Henry Lamb, a grandson of Henry. In 1969 the business moved to York Road and in the 1980’s it left family ownership and was taken on by a John Davey. Still active into the 21st century.
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Thomas William Willcox
Market Place, 12 Market Place, Alnwick
Watch maker, Jeweller
............Kelly's Directory of Northumberland, 1914
...............ALNWICK
..................Willcox Thomas William, watch maker, Market place, Alnwick
The “Willcox” name was not listed in “watchmakers” in the 1894 Kelly's Directory of Northumberland.
In this Forum section, there is also a very brief reference relating to T.W. Willcox being at Market place, Alnwick in 1927. There was in fact still a jewellery shop carrying the "T.W.Willcox" name at 12 Market Place, Alnwick at the start of the 21st century.
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Market Place, 12 Market Place, Alnwick
Watch maker, Jeweller
............Kelly's Directory of Northumberland, 1914
...............ALNWICK
..................Willcox Thomas William, watch maker, Market place, Alnwick
The “Willcox” name was not listed in “watchmakers” in the 1894 Kelly's Directory of Northumberland.
In this Forum section, there is also a very brief reference relating to T.W. Willcox being at Market place, Alnwick in 1927. There was in fact still a jewellery shop carrying the "T.W.Willcox" name at 12 Market Place, Alnwick at the start of the 21st century.
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Hello, in 2017 “Dognose” posted in this Forum section, the below circa 1847 advert promoting a “W.Wilson” as watch selling and watch repairing pawnbroker.
Here is an image of a pocket watch movement, possibly sold, repaired or even “made” (assembled??) by W.Wilson at 105 Pilgrim Street.
This gentleman could have been “William Wilson” with trade directory entries as below at that same 105 Pilgrim St address.
Ward's Northumberland & Durham Directory, 1850
....................Wilson William, pawnbroker, 105 Pilgrim St
Slater's Commercial Directory of Durham, Northumberland & Yorkshire,1855, Newcastle
....................Wilson Wm pawn broker, I05 Pilgrim St
Post Office Directory of Northumberland & Durham, 1858
...................Wilson Wm. pawnbroker 12 Pilgrim Street
There are a couple of earlier trade entries that could also have been him
....Directory of Newcastle upon Tyne & Gateshead, 1801
..................Wilfon (Wilson) Wm. pawnbroker, Love-lane
There is another entry in this directory though, Wilfon (Wilson) George, pawnbroker, at “ditto” from “Sandgate”.
....History, Directory & Gazetteer of Durham & Northumberland, 1827
..................Wilson William, pawnbroker, Love Lane (No other "Wilson pawn brokers" appear listed)
....Pigot & Co.'s Directory of Ches, Cumb ..., 1828-29. [Part 1: Ches - Northumb]
........................Pawnbrokers Wilson Wm., Love Lane.
In 2020 we get another Dognose post listed in this section of the Forum showing an advert circa 1909 relating to “J&E Wilson” at Clock House Pilgrim St. Newcastle.
viewtopic.php?p=180953&hilit=wilson+New ... Don%2DTyne
The question is, can the connection be identified between J&E Wilson and the business of William Wilson.
I found a little earlier advert for J&E Wilson. This is circa 1894 and the address is 12 Pilgrim St. also confirming the concern was started in 1780.
The Kelly's directory of Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland, North & South Shields, & suburbs 1883 adds a little more information as John and Edward Wilson pawn brokers are at 12 Pilgrim St.
We can now see John and Edward Wilson using the same business premises as Wm. Wilson had in 1858. Family possibly, but there is information lacking for the 25 years between 1858 and 1883. We can also see 12 Pilgrim St. is the street corner position with the identified High Friar Lane.
Trade directory entries go at least to 1916
Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1916
.............WlLSON, J&E, pawnbrokers, watchmakers, jewellers, &c. &c. (established 1780) Clock house, 12 Pilgrim St. (Cen. 1171) third door below Blackett St; private entrances, first 5 doors in High Friar Lane
Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1898
...............WILSON J. and E. pawnbrokers, watchmakers, jewellers, &c., &c. (established 1780) 12 Pilgrim Street, three doors below Blackett St; private entrances, first 6 doors in High Friar Lane.
Can you spot the difference? Not “Clock House” and they had an extra private entrance.
Kelly's Directory of Northumberland, 1894
.............Pawnbrokers Wilson John & Edward, 12 Pilgrim Street & High Friar Lane, See advert shown earlier.
Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1890
...............WILSON J. and E. pawnbrokers, watchmakers, jewellers, &c.,&c. (established 1780), 12 Pilgrim Street; three doors below Blackett St; private entrances, first 6 doors in High Friar Lane.
It is an obvious guess that William and John and Edward were close family, maybe father and sons. We would like to see “Wm Wilson & Sons”, “pawn brokers” in the trade record for the missing 25 years though, would we not? Also, regarding family connections, the 1801 Wm. Wilson may of course not be the same person as the 1858 Wm Wilson. Also, Wilson is by no means an uncommon surname, even in Newcastle pawn broking.
Directory of Newcastle upon Tyne & Gateshead, 1801
...............Wilfon (Wilson) George, pawnbroker, ditto (from Sandgate)
Ward's Northumberland & Durham Directory, 1850
................Pawn brokers. Wilson Mary, Stock Bridge
History, Topography & Directory of Northumberland, 1855
................Pawn brokers, Wilson Mary, Wall-knoll
Slater's Commercial Directory of Durham, Northumberland & Yorkshire1855 - Newcastle,
...................WiIson Elizabeth, pawn broker, Wall Knoll
Post Office Directory of Northumberland & Durham, 1858
...................Wilson Elizabeth (Mrs.), pawn broker, 13 Wall knoll
Kelly's directory of Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland, North & South Shields, & suburbs 1883
..................Pawn broker, WiIson E, Wall Knoll
..................Pawn brokers, Wilson Mrs Mary Ann, 33 St Nicolas Churchyard
Mary and Elizabeth Wilsons seem likely to have been related, but it is not proven to me.
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Here is an image of a pocket watch movement, possibly sold, repaired or even “made” (assembled??) by W.Wilson at 105 Pilgrim Street.
This gentleman could have been “William Wilson” with trade directory entries as below at that same 105 Pilgrim St address.
Ward's Northumberland & Durham Directory, 1850
....................Wilson William, pawnbroker, 105 Pilgrim St
Slater's Commercial Directory of Durham, Northumberland & Yorkshire,1855, Newcastle
....................Wilson Wm pawn broker, I05 Pilgrim St
Post Office Directory of Northumberland & Durham, 1858
...................Wilson Wm. pawnbroker 12 Pilgrim Street
There are a couple of earlier trade entries that could also have been him
....Directory of Newcastle upon Tyne & Gateshead, 1801
..................Wilfon (Wilson) Wm. pawnbroker, Love-lane
There is another entry in this directory though, Wilfon (Wilson) George, pawnbroker, at “ditto” from “Sandgate”.
....History, Directory & Gazetteer of Durham & Northumberland, 1827
..................Wilson William, pawnbroker, Love Lane (No other "Wilson pawn brokers" appear listed)
....Pigot & Co.'s Directory of Ches, Cumb ..., 1828-29. [Part 1: Ches - Northumb]
........................Pawnbrokers Wilson Wm., Love Lane.
In 2020 we get another Dognose post listed in this section of the Forum showing an advert circa 1909 relating to “J&E Wilson” at Clock House Pilgrim St. Newcastle.
viewtopic.php?p=180953&hilit=wilson+New ... Don%2DTyne
The question is, can the connection be identified between J&E Wilson and the business of William Wilson.
I found a little earlier advert for J&E Wilson. This is circa 1894 and the address is 12 Pilgrim St. also confirming the concern was started in 1780.
The Kelly's directory of Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland, North & South Shields, & suburbs 1883 adds a little more information as John and Edward Wilson pawn brokers are at 12 Pilgrim St.
We can now see John and Edward Wilson using the same business premises as Wm. Wilson had in 1858. Family possibly, but there is information lacking for the 25 years between 1858 and 1883. We can also see 12 Pilgrim St. is the street corner position with the identified High Friar Lane.
Trade directory entries go at least to 1916
Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1916
.............WlLSON, J&E, pawnbrokers, watchmakers, jewellers, &c. &c. (established 1780) Clock house, 12 Pilgrim St. (Cen. 1171) third door below Blackett St; private entrances, first 5 doors in High Friar Lane
Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1898
...............WILSON J. and E. pawnbrokers, watchmakers, jewellers, &c., &c. (established 1780) 12 Pilgrim Street, three doors below Blackett St; private entrances, first 6 doors in High Friar Lane.
Can you spot the difference? Not “Clock House” and they had an extra private entrance.
Kelly's Directory of Northumberland, 1894
.............Pawnbrokers Wilson John & Edward, 12 Pilgrim Street & High Friar Lane, See advert shown earlier.
Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1890
...............WILSON J. and E. pawnbrokers, watchmakers, jewellers, &c.,&c. (established 1780), 12 Pilgrim Street; three doors below Blackett St; private entrances, first 6 doors in High Friar Lane.
It is an obvious guess that William and John and Edward were close family, maybe father and sons. We would like to see “Wm Wilson & Sons”, “pawn brokers” in the trade record for the missing 25 years though, would we not? Also, regarding family connections, the 1801 Wm. Wilson may of course not be the same person as the 1858 Wm Wilson. Also, Wilson is by no means an uncommon surname, even in Newcastle pawn broking.
Directory of Newcastle upon Tyne & Gateshead, 1801
...............Wilfon (Wilson) George, pawnbroker, ditto (from Sandgate)
Ward's Northumberland & Durham Directory, 1850
................Pawn brokers. Wilson Mary, Stock Bridge
History, Topography & Directory of Northumberland, 1855
................Pawn brokers, Wilson Mary, Wall-knoll
Slater's Commercial Directory of Durham, Northumberland & Yorkshire1855 - Newcastle,
...................WiIson Elizabeth, pawn broker, Wall Knoll
Post Office Directory of Northumberland & Durham, 1858
...................Wilson Elizabeth (Mrs.), pawn broker, 13 Wall knoll
Kelly's directory of Newcastle, Gateshead, Sunderland, North & South Shields, & suburbs 1883
..................Pawn broker, WiIson E, Wall Knoll
..................Pawn brokers, Wilson Mrs Mary Ann, 33 St Nicolas Churchyard
Mary and Elizabeth Wilsons seem likely to have been related, but it is not proven to me.
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HAROLD MITSCHKE
76, Free Trade Hall, Lynn Street, and 13, South Scarborough Street, West Hartlepool
BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS
Mitschke, Harold, 76, Free Trade Hall, Lynn Street, and 13, South Scarborough Street, West Hartlepool, watchmaker and jeweller. Adjudication: August 13th.
Source: The Watchmaker, Jeweller and Silversmith - 1st November 1890
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76, Free Trade Hall, Lynn Street, and 13, South Scarborough Street, West Hartlepool
BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS
Mitschke, Harold, 76, Free Trade Hall, Lynn Street, and 13, South Scarborough Street, West Hartlepool, watchmaker and jeweller. Adjudication: August 13th.
Source: The Watchmaker, Jeweller and Silversmith - 1st November 1890
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SMITH & CHADWICK
Stockton, Durham
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership between the undersigned, John Smith and Robert Chadwick, in the trade or business of Silversmiths, Ironmongers, and Hardwaremen, at Stockton, in the county of Durham, under the firm of Smith and Chadwick, was this day dissolved by mutual consent; and in future the business will be carried on by the said Robert Chadwick, on his separate account, and who will pay and receive all debts owing from and to the said partnership in the regular course of trade. —Witness our hands this 28th day of February, 1865.
John Smith.
Robert Chadwick.
Source: The London Gazette - 3rd March 1865
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Stockton, Durham
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership between the undersigned, John Smith and Robert Chadwick, in the trade or business of Silversmiths, Ironmongers, and Hardwaremen, at Stockton, in the county of Durham, under the firm of Smith and Chadwick, was this day dissolved by mutual consent; and in future the business will be carried on by the said Robert Chadwick, on his separate account, and who will pay and receive all debts owing from and to the said partnership in the regular course of trade. —Witness our hands this 28th day of February, 1865.
John Smith.
Robert Chadwick.
Source: The London Gazette - 3rd March 1865
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J. & J.T. SMITH
Kendal, Westmoreland
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned, James Smith the younger and John Taylor Smith, carrying on business at Kendal, in the county of Westmoreland, as Watchmakers, Jewellers, and Engravers, under the style or firm of J. and. J. T. Smith, was, on the 3rd day of January, 1883, dissolved by mutual consent.—Dated this 31st day of January, 1883.
John Taylor Smith.
James. Smith, jun.
Source: The London Gazette - 20th February 1883
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Kendal, Westmoreland
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us the undersigned, James Smith the younger and John Taylor Smith, carrying on business at Kendal, in the county of Westmoreland, as Watchmakers, Jewellers, and Engravers, under the style or firm of J. and. J. T. Smith, was, on the 3rd day of January, 1883, dissolved by mutual consent.—Dated this 31st day of January, 1883.
John Taylor Smith.
James. Smith, jun.
Source: The London Gazette - 20th February 1883
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..................John Barnett Mennie Tyneside Watchmaker
There are already 2 posts in this section of the Forum with references to J.B.Mennie, watchmaker Jeweller of Newcastle. One relates to the very early 1900’s.
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and the other relates to the 1950’s.
viewtopic.php?p=219628&hilit=mennie#p219628
Here is possibly some in-fill information. First here is a quote from the 1900's post, that headlined “G. Kuss & Sons”.
“Notice is hereby given, that the business of Watchmakers and Jewellers heretofore carried on by the undersigned Joseph Kuss and William Kuss, at Number 6, Northumberland-street, in the city and county of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, under the style or firm of " G. Kuss and Sons," has as and from the 8th day of May, 1901, been sold to the undersigned, John Barnett Mennie, of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, who will alone as from the above mentioned date continue to carry on the same business under the old style or firm of " G. Kuss and Sons."–Dated this eighth day of July, 1901.
JOSEPH KUSS. WILLIAM KUSS. JOHN BARNETT MENNIE.
There was a change of address from 6, Northumberland-street but J.B.Mennie continued under the style of G.Kuss and Sons at least up to 1910.
.................Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1910
............................Mennie John B. (G. Kuss & Sons) r 35 Linden rd. Gosforth
............................Kuss G. & Sons, 9 New Bridge St. Watch & Clock Makers & Jewellers (Note there was also a "Kuss & Co." at 12 Collingwood St.)
By the Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1916, this had changed,
...................Mennie John B. watchmaker, &. c. 9 New Bridge St; r 35 Linden Rd. Gosforth
...................Mennie J. B. 9 New Bridge St. (Cen. 2498) Silver & Goldsmiths, Jewellers
In another directory the full name was used, “John Barnett Mennie” at 9 New Bridge St., Newcastle.
J.B Mennie appears to have been incorporated October 1928 and the firm dissolved 2002. I have an image of an advert from 1980 for J.B Mennie Ltd. quoting an address “Princess Square”, and found a secondary reference suggesting no 7 Princess Square.
That seemed to wrap up that firm, but maybe not as there seemed there was J.B Mennie in business before 1900.
There was a J.B Mennie listed in watchmaker records at Gateshead on Tyne (should really be “under” Tyne as it faces Newcastle on the Tyne’s North bank). The pocket watch key suggests a premises at 185 High Street, Gateshead. There are “Mennie” Gateshead signed, pocket watch dials on line with American movements indicating assembly/retailing but here is a movement marked “J.B Mennie” and it was in a case predating 1900.
I could not find a usefully dated Gateshead directory to confirm address or working period though.
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There are already 2 posts in this section of the Forum with references to J.B.Mennie, watchmaker Jeweller of Newcastle. One relates to the very early 1900’s.
viewtopic.php?p=107335#p107335
and the other relates to the 1950’s.
viewtopic.php?p=219628&hilit=mennie#p219628
Here is possibly some in-fill information. First here is a quote from the 1900's post, that headlined “G. Kuss & Sons”.
“Notice is hereby given, that the business of Watchmakers and Jewellers heretofore carried on by the undersigned Joseph Kuss and William Kuss, at Number 6, Northumberland-street, in the city and county of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, under the style or firm of " G. Kuss and Sons," has as and from the 8th day of May, 1901, been sold to the undersigned, John Barnett Mennie, of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, who will alone as from the above mentioned date continue to carry on the same business under the old style or firm of " G. Kuss and Sons."–Dated this eighth day of July, 1901.
JOSEPH KUSS. WILLIAM KUSS. JOHN BARNETT MENNIE.
There was a change of address from 6, Northumberland-street but J.B.Mennie continued under the style of G.Kuss and Sons at least up to 1910.
.................Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1910
............................Mennie John B. (G. Kuss & Sons) r 35 Linden rd. Gosforth
............................Kuss G. & Sons, 9 New Bridge St. Watch & Clock Makers & Jewellers (Note there was also a "Kuss & Co." at 12 Collingwood St.)
By the Ward's Directory of Newcastle-on-Tyne, 1916, this had changed,
...................Mennie John B. watchmaker, &. c. 9 New Bridge St; r 35 Linden Rd. Gosforth
...................Mennie J. B. 9 New Bridge St. (Cen. 2498) Silver & Goldsmiths, Jewellers
In another directory the full name was used, “John Barnett Mennie” at 9 New Bridge St., Newcastle.
J.B Mennie appears to have been incorporated October 1928 and the firm dissolved 2002. I have an image of an advert from 1980 for J.B Mennie Ltd. quoting an address “Princess Square”, and found a secondary reference suggesting no 7 Princess Square.
That seemed to wrap up that firm, but maybe not as there seemed there was J.B Mennie in business before 1900.
There was a J.B Mennie listed in watchmaker records at Gateshead on Tyne (should really be “under” Tyne as it faces Newcastle on the Tyne’s North bank). The pocket watch key suggests a premises at 185 High Street, Gateshead. There are “Mennie” Gateshead signed, pocket watch dials on line with American movements indicating assembly/retailing but here is a movement marked “J.B Mennie” and it was in a case predating 1900.
I could not find a usefully dated Gateshead directory to confirm address or working period though.
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The Prince of Wales, when opening the North-East Coast Exhibition at Newcastle last week, at which a collection of jewelry shown by the National Jewelers’ Association, is valued at $1,250,000, praised the beauty of some of the pieces displayed. The “Southern Cross” is among the exhibits.
Source: The Jewelers' Circular - 6th June 1929
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Source: The Jewelers' Circular - 6th June 1929
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EDWARD ISRAEL ASHER
2, Manor Place, Sunderland
Bankruptcy Record
Asher, Edward Israel, Retail Jeweler, 2, Manor Place, Sunderland. First meeting : Oct. 7. Public Examination : Oct. 20.
Source: The Watchmaker, Jeweller and Silversmith - 1st November 1892
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2, Manor Place, Sunderland
Bankruptcy Record
Asher, Edward Israel, Retail Jeweler, 2, Manor Place, Sunderland. First meeting : Oct. 7. Public Examination : Oct. 20.
Source: The Watchmaker, Jeweller and Silversmith - 1st November 1892
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WILLIAM OBENHAUF
Carlisle
DIVIDENDS DECLARED
OBENHAUF, William, Watchmaker and Jeweler, 23A, Bank-street, 5, and North-street, Holme-head, Carlisle. Dividend of 4s. 4 7/26d.
Source: The Watchmaker, Jeweller and Silversmith - 1st May 1893
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Carlisle
DIVIDENDS DECLARED
OBENHAUF, William, Watchmaker and Jeweler, 23A, Bank-street, 5, and North-street, Holme-head, Carlisle. Dividend of 4s. 4 7/26d.
Source: The Watchmaker, Jeweller and Silversmith - 1st May 1893
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The "Hirds"
...Watchmakers & Jewellers
.......Market Place, Ambleside, Westmoreland (now part of Cumbria)
1851 History & Directory of Westmorland,
Ambleside Township
Hird, Edw. clock and watch maker.
1858 Post Office Directory of Westmorland, 1858
Hird Edward, watch & clock maker Ambleside
1873 Post Office Directory of Cumberland & Westmorland,
Hird Edward, watch maker & jeweller, Market Place Ambleside
Watch E Hird Image
The hallmarks not clear, my identification is 1882 Chester case maker Henry Stuart of Liverpool.
The personnel was different in the next trade entry I found, being "& Sons" who, from subsequent information, appear to have been Henry Hird and William John Hird.
1885 History, Topography & Directory of Westmorland,
Hird E. & Sons, Market place watchmakers Ambleside.
Edward Hird died circa 1895-97
Edward HIRD of Ambleside, Westmorland retired Watchmaker and Jeweller -
Will dated: 1 March 1895 Executors: my son William John HIRD and my son in law Richard Potter HUNTER
My cottages and other property situated at Ellerigg, Ambleside to my daughter Margaret together with half of my cottages situated at Chapel Hill known as Kelsick Cottages giving her a free choice of either taking the East block or West block and I also give to her my late Wife's Jewellery and my Chiming Clock.
To my Grandson John Edward HUNTER my Gold Watch and Chain with its appendages.
All the rest of my property Real and personal to my Trustees upon Trust to allow my three children Margaret, Henry and William John to divide and apportion my Scientific Instruments, Books Tools and Household Furniture and Effects equally amongst them if they can agree upon such division. Failing such agreement the same shall form part of the residue of my Estate and be sold accordingly.
All the residue of my Real and personal estate my Trustees to sell the same and to divide the proceeds equally amongst my children Margaret, Henry and William John. My sons Henry and William John shall not take part in any such division until they have brought into hotchpot and accounted for all Loans made by me to them together with any arrears of interest thereon. In ascertaining the amount of such Loans I direct that the whole amount advanced by me to my Son Henry shall be charged against him but he shall be credited with any amounts which may be received by me or my Executors as Dividend upon any claim I may have made against his Estate
I direct that before the remaining half of my Chapel Hill property be sold my Trustees shall offer it to my Children in order of Seniority at a valuation to be made by some competent disinterested person appointed by my Trustees.
I empower my trustees at anytime before the final division takes place to advance to my Son Henry out of and on account of his share under this my Will such Sum or Sums as they may think fit not exceeding in the whole one half of the amount of his expectant share.
On the 26th day of May 1897 Probate of this was granted at Carlisle to William John HIRD, one of the executors.
The business was carried on by William John Hird.
1894 & 1897 Kelly's Directory of Westmorland,
Hird William John, watch maker & jeweller, Market place.
William John HIRD died 1903 but the image below of a possible newspaper article, although undated, should pre date this.
William John HIRD, will abstract below
William John HIRD Ambleside, Westmorland, Jeweller. -
Will dated: 27-Jan-1903
Executors and trustees: my wife Elizabeth Jane and my brother in law Wilfred STALKER
All property both real and personal to my wife Elizabeth Jane absolutely.
Probate of the will of William John HIRD, Ambleside, Westmorland, jeweller, who died 7-Feb-1903 at Ambleside.
On the 20th day of March 1903 Probate of this will was granted at Carlisle to Elizabeth Jane HIRD of Ambleside, widow of deceased and Wilfred STALKER, Ambleside, cabinet maker, the executors.
Gross value of estate: �2391.10.0
Net value of personal estate: �632.0.3
Elizabeth Jane Hird thus continued the business, first staying in her husband's name and latter her own name.
1906 Kelly's Directory of Westmorland
Hird Wm.Jn. (Mrs.), watch ma. & jeweller, Market Pl.
Also listed in this directory is the other son of Edward Hird
Hird Henry, jeweller, Kelsick road
1914 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland & Westmorland
Hird Elizabeth (Mrs.), watch ma. & jeweller, Market Pl.
Elizabeth Jane Hird died January-1945, will abstract below
Elizabeth Jane HIRD Walton Mount, Ambleside Westmorland, widow.
Will dated: 26-June-1937
Executors and trustees: my son John Stalker HIRD and my daughter Elizabeth Jane MANDALL
My two mahogany chests forming a tallboy, the old oak chest and long cased mahogany clock and my two long cased regular clocks in mahogany and oak respectively to my son John Stalker HIRD
My freehold dwelling number 2 Compston Cottages in Compston Road, Ambleside to my two daughters Margaret Muriel HIRD and Doris Gertrude HIRD in equal shares as joint tenants.
The remainder of my household furniture, furnishings, chattels, personal jewellery and effects, but not the stock in trade in my business of watchmaker and jeweller also to my said two daughters.
All the rest of my real and personal property to my trustees with the power to call in and convert to money as they see fit and to divide the proceeds thereof into six equal shares and pay one share to each of my five children: Elizabeth Jane MANDALL, Beatrice MONKHOUSE, Margaret Muriel HIRD, Doris Gertrude HIRD and John Stalker HIRD and one share equally between the children of my deceased daughter Winifred Mary STEVENS.
Probate of the will of Elizabeth Jane HIRD of Walton Mount, Ambleside, Westmorland, widow, died 26-January-1945 at Ambleside:
On the 27th day of June 1945 Probate of this will was granted at Wakefield to John Stalker HIRD of Oakroyd Bradford Road Brighouse county of York, barrister, son and Elizabeth Jane MANDALL of Cintra Reigate Hill Reigate, county of Surrey (wife of John Albert MANDALL) daughter of the deceased the executors named in the will.
Gross value of estate: �500.10.0
Net value of personal estate: �34.17.0
Henry Hird who appeared to set up a shop in Ambleside in competition to his family also had a possible newspaper article relating to his shop published. This article date may be 1900
On line there is an Ancestry reference suggesting Henry died in 1910 at Ulverston.
The Hird surname appears to have a higher frequency in Northern England. There was a watchmaker Henry Hird active c. 1851-c. 1869 at Ulverston and a movement, on line , signed Edward Hird, Ulverston in a 1892 Chester case. Ambleside and Ulverston are less than 25 miles apart. Also at Barrow in Furness just over 30 miles from Ambleside there was another late 19th century watchmaker Jeweller, William Hird. Below is a link to a Forum post referencing William Hide.
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Sorry that the images of the shop descriptions reproduced so poorly.
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...Watchmakers & Jewellers
.......Market Place, Ambleside, Westmoreland (now part of Cumbria)
1851 History & Directory of Westmorland,
Ambleside Township
Hird, Edw. clock and watch maker.
1858 Post Office Directory of Westmorland, 1858
Hird Edward, watch & clock maker Ambleside
1873 Post Office Directory of Cumberland & Westmorland,
Hird Edward, watch maker & jeweller, Market Place Ambleside
Watch E Hird Image
The hallmarks not clear, my identification is 1882 Chester case maker Henry Stuart of Liverpool.
The personnel was different in the next trade entry I found, being "& Sons" who, from subsequent information, appear to have been Henry Hird and William John Hird.
1885 History, Topography & Directory of Westmorland,
Hird E. & Sons, Market place watchmakers Ambleside.
Edward Hird died circa 1895-97
Edward HIRD of Ambleside, Westmorland retired Watchmaker and Jeweller -
Will dated: 1 March 1895 Executors: my son William John HIRD and my son in law Richard Potter HUNTER
My cottages and other property situated at Ellerigg, Ambleside to my daughter Margaret together with half of my cottages situated at Chapel Hill known as Kelsick Cottages giving her a free choice of either taking the East block or West block and I also give to her my late Wife's Jewellery and my Chiming Clock.
To my Grandson John Edward HUNTER my Gold Watch and Chain with its appendages.
All the rest of my property Real and personal to my Trustees upon Trust to allow my three children Margaret, Henry and William John to divide and apportion my Scientific Instruments, Books Tools and Household Furniture and Effects equally amongst them if they can agree upon such division. Failing such agreement the same shall form part of the residue of my Estate and be sold accordingly.
All the residue of my Real and personal estate my Trustees to sell the same and to divide the proceeds equally amongst my children Margaret, Henry and William John. My sons Henry and William John shall not take part in any such division until they have brought into hotchpot and accounted for all Loans made by me to them together with any arrears of interest thereon. In ascertaining the amount of such Loans I direct that the whole amount advanced by me to my Son Henry shall be charged against him but he shall be credited with any amounts which may be received by me or my Executors as Dividend upon any claim I may have made against his Estate
I direct that before the remaining half of my Chapel Hill property be sold my Trustees shall offer it to my Children in order of Seniority at a valuation to be made by some competent disinterested person appointed by my Trustees.
I empower my trustees at anytime before the final division takes place to advance to my Son Henry out of and on account of his share under this my Will such Sum or Sums as they may think fit not exceeding in the whole one half of the amount of his expectant share.
On the 26th day of May 1897 Probate of this was granted at Carlisle to William John HIRD, one of the executors.
The business was carried on by William John Hird.
1894 & 1897 Kelly's Directory of Westmorland,
Hird William John, watch maker & jeweller, Market place.
William John HIRD died 1903 but the image below of a possible newspaper article, although undated, should pre date this.
William John HIRD, will abstract below
William John HIRD Ambleside, Westmorland, Jeweller. -
Will dated: 27-Jan-1903
Executors and trustees: my wife Elizabeth Jane and my brother in law Wilfred STALKER
All property both real and personal to my wife Elizabeth Jane absolutely.
Probate of the will of William John HIRD, Ambleside, Westmorland, jeweller, who died 7-Feb-1903 at Ambleside.
On the 20th day of March 1903 Probate of this will was granted at Carlisle to Elizabeth Jane HIRD of Ambleside, widow of deceased and Wilfred STALKER, Ambleside, cabinet maker, the executors.
Gross value of estate: �2391.10.0
Net value of personal estate: �632.0.3
Elizabeth Jane Hird thus continued the business, first staying in her husband's name and latter her own name.
1906 Kelly's Directory of Westmorland
Hird Wm.Jn. (Mrs.), watch ma. & jeweller, Market Pl.
Also listed in this directory is the other son of Edward Hird
Hird Henry, jeweller, Kelsick road
1914 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland & Westmorland
Hird Elizabeth (Mrs.), watch ma. & jeweller, Market Pl.
Elizabeth Jane Hird died January-1945, will abstract below
Elizabeth Jane HIRD Walton Mount, Ambleside Westmorland, widow.
Will dated: 26-June-1937
Executors and trustees: my son John Stalker HIRD and my daughter Elizabeth Jane MANDALL
My two mahogany chests forming a tallboy, the old oak chest and long cased mahogany clock and my two long cased regular clocks in mahogany and oak respectively to my son John Stalker HIRD
My freehold dwelling number 2 Compston Cottages in Compston Road, Ambleside to my two daughters Margaret Muriel HIRD and Doris Gertrude HIRD in equal shares as joint tenants.
The remainder of my household furniture, furnishings, chattels, personal jewellery and effects, but not the stock in trade in my business of watchmaker and jeweller also to my said two daughters.
All the rest of my real and personal property to my trustees with the power to call in and convert to money as they see fit and to divide the proceeds thereof into six equal shares and pay one share to each of my five children: Elizabeth Jane MANDALL, Beatrice MONKHOUSE, Margaret Muriel HIRD, Doris Gertrude HIRD and John Stalker HIRD and one share equally between the children of my deceased daughter Winifred Mary STEVENS.
Probate of the will of Elizabeth Jane HIRD of Walton Mount, Ambleside, Westmorland, widow, died 26-January-1945 at Ambleside:
On the 27th day of June 1945 Probate of this will was granted at Wakefield to John Stalker HIRD of Oakroyd Bradford Road Brighouse county of York, barrister, son and Elizabeth Jane MANDALL of Cintra Reigate Hill Reigate, county of Surrey (wife of John Albert MANDALL) daughter of the deceased the executors named in the will.
Gross value of estate: �500.10.0
Net value of personal estate: �34.17.0
Henry Hird who appeared to set up a shop in Ambleside in competition to his family also had a possible newspaper article relating to his shop published. This article date may be 1900
On line there is an Ancestry reference suggesting Henry died in 1910 at Ulverston.
The Hird surname appears to have a higher frequency in Northern England. There was a watchmaker Henry Hird active c. 1851-c. 1869 at Ulverston and a movement, on line , signed Edward Hird, Ulverston in a 1892 Chester case. Ambleside and Ulverston are less than 25 miles apart. Also at Barrow in Furness just over 30 miles from Ambleside there was another late 19th century watchmaker Jeweller, William Hird. Below is a link to a Forum post referencing William Hide.
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... %2DFurness
Sorry that the images of the shop descriptions reproduced so poorly.
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Re: The Newcastle and North of England Trade - Information, Advertisements, Examples
William HIRD
....Watch maker, Jeweller
.........69, Duke Street, Barrow-in-Furness
See also
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... %2DFurness
Normally extra information is available from trade directories, but with Barrow in Furness, a town that at that period of time was geographically classified as in the extreme North of Lancashire, I found nil entries. Lancashire trade directories are heavily skewed to the Manchester, Salford, Liverpool areas of South Lancashire.
There is a secondary source (watch forum) that offers the following from Census records:
William Hird was born in 1836. He was listed as a watch maker in 1871, a Watch Jobber (repairer) in 1881, and a Jeweller (Dealer) in 1911.
Additionally the National Trust Collection at South Lakes, Cumbria have an 8 day English dial clock in box casing, signed 'W. Hird, Barrow' in the dial centre; Single train, 4 pillar fusee movement with dead beat escapement and Hamson's maintaining power. 16 inch circular white painted dial with Roman numerals and dated circa 1880.
It is possible that William had a son in the business but with at least another occupation. Note below.
Draft conveyance
Description:
23 April 1903, between (1) John Poole, solicitor, of Ulverston and Peter Hartley, brewer, of the same, (2) John Hird, Watchmaker, of Duke Street, Barrow-in-Furness (agent of (1)), (3) Roger Fleming, retired butcher, Coniston and (4) George Fleming, butcher, Coniston (son of (3)) whereby (1) at the direction of (3), conveys a cottage near Yewdale Bridge, Coniston, with slaughter house and outbuildings to (4) for £800 (includes plan).
Date: 1903
For an extra search, I looked for W.Hird in trade directories for Cumberland and Westmoreland "old counties" adjoining the then North of Lancashire. In Westmoreland directories I did find a "Hird's" watchmaker business at Ambleside just over 30 miles to the North of Barrow In Furness. Link below -
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... 0Jewellers
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....Watch maker, Jeweller
.........69, Duke Street, Barrow-in-Furness
See also
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... %2DFurness
Normally extra information is available from trade directories, but with Barrow in Furness, a town that at that period of time was geographically classified as in the extreme North of Lancashire, I found nil entries. Lancashire trade directories are heavily skewed to the Manchester, Salford, Liverpool areas of South Lancashire.
There is a secondary source (watch forum) that offers the following from Census records:
William Hird was born in 1836. He was listed as a watch maker in 1871, a Watch Jobber (repairer) in 1881, and a Jeweller (Dealer) in 1911.
Additionally the National Trust Collection at South Lakes, Cumbria have an 8 day English dial clock in box casing, signed 'W. Hird, Barrow' in the dial centre; Single train, 4 pillar fusee movement with dead beat escapement and Hamson's maintaining power. 16 inch circular white painted dial with Roman numerals and dated circa 1880.
It is possible that William had a son in the business but with at least another occupation. Note below.
Draft conveyance
Description:
23 April 1903, between (1) John Poole, solicitor, of Ulverston and Peter Hartley, brewer, of the same, (2) John Hird, Watchmaker, of Duke Street, Barrow-in-Furness (agent of (1)), (3) Roger Fleming, retired butcher, Coniston and (4) George Fleming, butcher, Coniston (son of (3)) whereby (1) at the direction of (3), conveys a cottage near Yewdale Bridge, Coniston, with slaughter house and outbuildings to (4) for £800 (includes plan).
Date: 1903
For an extra search, I looked for W.Hird in trade directories for Cumberland and Westmoreland "old counties" adjoining the then North of Lancashire. In Westmoreland directories I did find a "Hird's" watchmaker business at Ambleside just over 30 miles to the North of Barrow In Furness. Link below -
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... 0Jewellers
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Re: The Newcastle and North of England Trade - Information, Advertisements, Examples
C.B.MAZZUCCHI
........60 & 61 Hope Street, Crook, County Durham
.............Jeweller, Watch Maker/Retailer
A secondary source indicates this was likely CARLOS BORROMEO MAZZUCCHI, born in Stazzona, Como area of Lombardy, Italy, approximately 1835 and listed in the 1861 census in Crook (possible carver and guilder, clockmaker and Jeweller).
1890 Kelly's Directory of Durham
......Crook & Billy Row
Mazzucchi Chas. jeweller, 6o Hope St
The secondary source used earlier states "Carlos Borromeo Mazzucchi" died in Crook on April 8 1905, so this next directory entry would be a continuation of the business in his name or possibly in a son's name.
1914 Kelly's Directory of Durham
......Crook
Mazzucchi Charles, jeweller & toy dealer, 6o & 61 Hope St.
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........60 & 61 Hope Street, Crook, County Durham
.............Jeweller, Watch Maker/Retailer
A secondary source indicates this was likely CARLOS BORROMEO MAZZUCCHI, born in Stazzona, Como area of Lombardy, Italy, approximately 1835 and listed in the 1861 census in Crook (possible carver and guilder, clockmaker and Jeweller).
1890 Kelly's Directory of Durham
......Crook & Billy Row
Mazzucchi Chas. jeweller, 6o Hope St
The secondary source used earlier states "Carlos Borromeo Mazzucchi" died in Crook on April 8 1905, so this next directory entry would be a continuation of the business in his name or possibly in a son's name.
1914 Kelly's Directory of Durham
......Crook
Mazzucchi Charles, jeweller & toy dealer, 6o & 61 Hope St.
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Re: The Newcastle and North of England Trade - Information, Advertisements, Examples
JOSEPH BOWMAN
.......25 Middlegate, Penrith. Cumberland
.............Watch Maker, Jeweller & Electrical Engineer
1894 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland
…..Penrith
……….Bowman Joseph, watch maker, jeweller & electrical engineer, 25 Middlegate
3 years later in 1897 the Directory of Cumberland the entry was unchanged. Subsequent entries were only as watch maker.
1906 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland
…..Penrith
…….Bowman Joseph, watch maker, 25 Middlegate,
1914 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland & Westmorland
…..Penrith
……...Bowman Joseph, watch maker, 25 Middlegate
The pocket watch paper advertises the watch repair and jewellery part of the business but there is also the claim of silversmithing?
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.......25 Middlegate, Penrith. Cumberland
.............Watch Maker, Jeweller & Electrical Engineer
1894 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland
…..Penrith
……….Bowman Joseph, watch maker, jeweller & electrical engineer, 25 Middlegate
3 years later in 1897 the Directory of Cumberland the entry was unchanged. Subsequent entries were only as watch maker.
1906 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland
…..Penrith
…….Bowman Joseph, watch maker, 25 Middlegate,
1914 Kelly's Directory of Cumberland & Westmorland
…..Penrith
……...Bowman Joseph, watch maker, 25 Middlegate
The pocket watch paper advertises the watch repair and jewellery part of the business but there is also the claim of silversmithing?
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