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Silver Spoon - Family Crest?

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:54 am
by projectchaos
I have recently purchased this spoon, and have carried out some research using this site and others to find out dates etc, which I would like to confirm.
This spoon was manufactured in London by William Eley I and William Fearn, mark entered in 1814 as spoon makers (Lovell's Court, Paternoster Row).
It features the lion passant mark, which I assume it indicates it was made in London? The letter C means that this spoon was made in 1818.And has the duty mark of King George III.

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What I would really like to know is what family crest is this?

I have found two examples similar to this via a search online, but this is different to these two:
http://i.imgur.com/O6284fR.jpg
and
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33881

Thanks :)

Re: Silver Spoon - Family Crest?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:39 pm
by nobilityhouse
It may not be possible to identify the crest, as the text in the second example (the Irish spoon) notes that the "arm in armour embowed holding a sword" is a common crest. Put that phrase into Google Image and you will see what I mean. Cheers.

Re: Silver Spoon - Family Crest?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:37 pm
by dognose
Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Just to confirm your findings regarding the maker and date are correct. The Lion Passant does not indicate London, but of the 925/1000 sterling standard. The London mark, the leopard's head, is missing from small items of silver at this period of time.

Trev.

Re: Silver Spoon - Family Crest?

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:10 am
by Traintime
And to be even more clear, none of this has to do with where it was made but rather where it was assayed and when. How many of theses crests coincide with the late era of George III? Could they just be to commemorate an event like mad George regaining his sanity (thus the arm raising a sword symbolically). Wasn't the royal health a matter of national pride as well as concern? Or are they spread over many eras.

Re: Silver Spoon - Family Crest?

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:31 am
by Traintime
By the way, would not this arm be associated with St. George, slayer of dragons and symbol of Great(er) Britain or (lesser) England. A similar piece of (fake?) general heraldry was submitted by Trev (Dognose) elsewhere on a nutmeg cup. A rampant lion over braid, it turns up commonly as a topmark having no particular association.