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Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:45 pm
by Traintime
Not finding among smiths or retailers. Letters look very similar to the Hayden of Charleston partnership. No doubts on that first initial..very clear. Any thoughts?

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Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 pm
by Traintime
Picked up one notation for J. Hayden Columbus Georgia circa 1840's with pure coin mark on spoons.

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:49 pm
by silverly
J Hayden silversmith Columbus, Ohio is a possibility. I think his first name was John but I'm not able to do any better research at the moment.

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:52 pm
by Aguest
Is this a mustard spoon? :::: The form seems a little unusual for a mustard spoon. :::::

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:55 pm
by Traintime
Thank you, S.
-->>JC for Feb. 1897 places one J.B. Hayden of Topeka Kansas as out-of-town buyer present in Kansas City at that time...no other references on him yet, but this is far later than the general "coin" era: https://books.google.com/books?id=B3UoA ... as&f=false

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 12:19 pm
by Traintime
Reviewed to date:
>One ghost listing declaring 2 mote spoons marked J.Hayden Pure Coin, attributed as Columbus Georgia 1840's (engines can't recover this posting).
>One current listing from Florida of 5 fiddlebacks marked J.Hayden only, same attribution and dating.
>No known prior sale records.
>Not noted in Thorn's American Marks.
>Not among names in WEVoss' fantastic work.
>Not mentioned in SMP Silver Salon forums, 925 threads, Sterling Flatware Fashions, or general mentions.
>Ohio has been suggested, but no records of samples have surfaced...J.B. Hayden is a name that may relate to blacksmithing as it comes up in regards to the horse and wagons industry, but this is inconclusive.
>Apparently, some evidence may exist to suggest pioneer-era Columbus Georgia, but sellers aren't noting how they support the conclusions.
>Spoon measures ~5 7/8"overall L, 11/16"extreme handle W, 7/8"extreme bowl W, 1 1/4"extreme bowl L.

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:06 pm
by Katie H
Reading your post trying to id my forks. Olive pattern, but not beaded like your spoon. The mark is the same. You may be interested they came from an Atlanta, Georgia estate sale. I know everybody moves around, but it may be a hint that the silversmith was from Columbus, Georgia. Who knows.

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:56 pm
by wev
Jesse Hayden, watchmaker & silversmith. Rockville MD, 1804/18055; Martinsburg WV, 1806-1852 alone and in conjunction with his sons. He is listed in the 1850 census as a silversmith, though he seems to have established a going butchery concern in the 1840s as well.
MESDA has a clearly marked spoon with a wholesale countermark of Newel Harding, Boston c 1830 indicating he was, like most southern dealers, buying in standard goods made in the north.

Re: Unidentified "J.HAYDEN. PURE COIN" on spoon.

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:52 am
by Traintime
Many thanks to wev for providing a solution.