It has the name Robert, a gothic R and a strange shape with the number 18. Does anyone know where it's from and how old it is?
Miles
Unsure of date and origin of teaspoon
Unsure of date and origin of teaspoon
Here is a silver teaspoon; I'm not certain that it's French, but the pattern makes me think so.
It has the name Robert, a gothic R and a strange shape with the number 18. Does anyone know where it's from and how old it is?
Miles
It has the name Robert, a gothic R and a strange shape with the number 18. Does anyone know where it's from and how old it is?
Miles
The spoon and its marks
Dear Granmaa
The ' Gothic R' is a 'Recense mark' kind of 'Duty mark' at that time used in Belgium during the period, 1831 - 1868.
The second mark in a square is certainly the maker's mark, That form of makers' mark was used in Belgium since 1818 ( Dutch period).
Now 'Robert' can be: or the maker, or the name of the House where the flatware was sold.
Unfortunately, till now there is no general book on the Belgian maker's mark of the 19th century, totally reshaped so that we can easily find the Belgian silversmiths marks and the name related to the city.
With my experience, i can tell you that it is not one of the most known silvesmith in Belgium
As for telling that the mark is from Tournai, or dated 1818, I am sorry to say that this does not look to be so.
One might be able to find the Gothic letter R on a 18th century object, but then we'll find also the 18th century marks for the city. ( Most of the time)
(For Tournai: a Tower and a lettre T)
Or we can find the Gothic R , alone on it's own, this happens when the 'essay' office, is not already active.
I hope this can help a little
Martine,
Tenerife
The ' Gothic R' is a 'Recense mark' kind of 'Duty mark' at that time used in Belgium during the period, 1831 - 1868.
The second mark in a square is certainly the maker's mark, That form of makers' mark was used in Belgium since 1818 ( Dutch period).
Now 'Robert' can be: or the maker, or the name of the House where the flatware was sold.
Unfortunately, till now there is no general book on the Belgian maker's mark of the 19th century, totally reshaped so that we can easily find the Belgian silversmiths marks and the name related to the city.
With my experience, i can tell you that it is not one of the most known silvesmith in Belgium
As for telling that the mark is from Tournai, or dated 1818, I am sorry to say that this does not look to be so.
One might be able to find the Gothic letter R on a 18th century object, but then we'll find also the 18th century marks for the city. ( Most of the time)
(For Tournai: a Tower and a lettre T)
Or we can find the Gothic R , alone on it's own, this happens when the 'essay' office, is not already active.
I hope this can help a little
Martine,
Tenerife
Tea spoon Fiddle
Dear Granmaa !!!
Sorry I forgot to read your name.!!!
This model started in Belgium, more of less like in France, i would say 1830's 1850's.
It is called le Double Filet, ' double fiddle' I think in english.
You can find a similar type, a little bit different in the 18th century also.
The older they are , the heavier..... in the 19th c.
I peared a little bit through my maker's book, but till now, no Clue.
How did it come to you??? in England.?
Silvery Yours!
Martine
Sorry I forgot to read your name.!!!
This model started in Belgium, more of less like in France, i would say 1830's 1850's.
It is called le Double Filet, ' double fiddle' I think in english.
You can find a similar type, a little bit different in the 18th century also.
The older they are , the heavier..... in the 19th c.
I peared a little bit through my maker's book, but till now, no Clue.
How did it come to you??? in England.?
Silvery Yours!
Martine