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800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:50 pm
by noamlip
Please help me identify the hallmarks of my 800 silver snuff box. The 800 stamp is on the edge of the box, under the lid (not shown in the photos).
https://imgur.com/iXQSsA2
https://imgur.com/bcAAuN7

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:59 pm
by oel
Hi welcome to the forum, see Hanau silver, unattributed Hanau style pseudo marks .


https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html

Peter.

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:15 pm
by noamlip
Thank you. I'll look it up

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:32 pm
by noamlip
Hi Peter.
It looks completely the same.
So I guess I'll only know now that it was made in Hanau (no exact date or silversmith name).

Thank you again

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:52 am
by noamlip
I've found a similar box with a hallmark dating it to 1904. Does it help date my box?
That box has Chester 1904, Maurice Freeman's hallmark.

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:28 am
by oel
Yes your box was made around early 1900.

Peter.

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:14 am
by noamlip
Hi Peter,

Thank you so much for your information.
I'm interested to find out who made this box.
Do you have a clue?
I made another search and found another similar box (a little bigger but with a similar relief with figures)
that its hallmark shows Hanau, Georg Roth.
Does it show that the maker was Georg Roth, or can it be someone else's work?

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:22 am
by oel
No, you can't say that. So far we don't know which German silversmith or silversmiths used this characteristic set of pseudo hallmarks on Hanau style silverware, unfortunately.

Peter.

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:37 am
by SteveDWollongong
Hi,

I believe your marks have been attributed to Hanau maker Gebruder Dingeldein. Please see this earlier post where the punches that made your three marks were found in the possession of his descendants.

https://925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... on#p160529

Cheers,
Steve

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:54 am
by oel
Hi Steve, thanks for the reminder. I'm going to ask if we can update the Hanau Pseudo Hallmarks page, this will take some time.


Cheers,

Peter.

Re: 800 silver snuff box. unrecognized hallmarks

Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 1:05 pm
by noamlip
Hi Steve, Thank you for your contribution to my small research.

Do you know a Gebruder Dingeldein piece similar to my snuff/pill box?
In terms of attributes, besides the hallmarks?